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Postby Dr. Ron » April 5th, 2008, 11:38 am

Okay then....

Let's just say someone did win some money ......like Rahab for example....

Would it then be a sin for the church she attends to accept her tithes?

If smoking is a sin, is it also a sin for the church the grocer attends to accept tithes on the tobacco products he sells???


Get a grip people!
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Re: I won!!!!

Postby one love » April 5th, 2008, 11:41 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Okay then....

Let's just say someone did win some money ......like Rahab for example....

Would it then be a sin for the church she attends to accept her tithes?

If smoking is a sin, is it also a sin for the church the grocer attends to accept tithes on the tobacco products he sells???


Get a grip people!


Dr Ron who is this post aimed at??????????

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Postby Dr. Ron » April 5th, 2008, 11:46 am

I don't play those games , son. If I want to say something I will just say it.

I was just throwing something out there for consideration.

YOu weren't around when these questions were asked at the GA. Most of the money to operate the church in the early days came from cash crops like tobacco. It was a huge debate in the GA.

Just thought it might be interesting.
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Postby Paully_44 » April 5th, 2008, 11:46 am

Figilife wrote:LETS END THIS WITH IF JESUS WAS STANDING NEXT TO YOU WOULD YOU STILL PLAY THAT TICKET? ROLL THOSE DICE? RAMBO I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO SAY SURE I WOULD BUT FOR THE REAL HONEST HEARTED ONES I DON'T THINK SO


I sure would, I have no problem with. I dont think I have left Jesus at the coat check the few times I have been to casino.

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Congratulations Rahab!
Let the wild rumpus start!

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Postby one love » April 5th, 2008, 11:53 am

Dr. Ron wrote:I don't play those games , son. If I want to say something I will just say it.

I was just throwing something out there for consideration.

YOu weren't around when these questions were asked at the GA. Most of the money to operate the church in the early days came from cash crops like tobacco. It was a huge debate in the GA.

Just thought it might be interesting.


i am refering to "get a grip people" as if someone stated something wrong and unbelievable this is why i asked who was that aimed at, i never insinuated you played games, sir.

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Postby Dr. Ron » April 5th, 2008, 12:02 pm

Sorry son,

I misunderstood.

I made that "get a grip " comment because no one answered my question about how the replacement for Judas was accomplished and how to justify a total abstinance from an activity that was participated in by the diciples.

I have made it my life's determination to use only the word of God to state my principles. I have no principle in my life that I will not change when it is impacted by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
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Re: I won!!!!

Postby one love » April 5th, 2008, 12:11 pm

Dr. Ron wrote:Sorry son,

I misunderstood.

I made that "get a grip " comment because no one answered my question about how the replacement for Judas was accomplished and how to justify a total abstinance from an activity that was participated in by the diciples.

I have made it my life's determination to use only the word of God to state my principles. I have no principle in my life that I will not change when it is impacted by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.


I look at gambling in the context as i have posted not men of God choosing a leader, people throwing money out for a hope to win more money which lead to much destruction of peoples lives just as drugs.

Sorry for the confusion friend :wink:

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Postby TW » April 5th, 2008, 12:21 pm

one love,
Let me ask you what you think about a "professional gambler?" Someone that earns their living playing poker?


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Postby one love » April 5th, 2008, 1:55 pm

TW wrote:one love,
Let me ask you what you think about a "professional gambler?" Someone that earns their living playing poker?


TW

*disclaimer: I am going somewhere with this line of questioning.*


never thought about it but I would apply it the same as anything else that is sinful. Ya know i have heard people say i can gamble and never have problems, well many on drugs and alcohol same the same thing. But never the less gambling is an addictive force just as drugs and ruins lives.

As far as professional poker players i have never even thought about it truthfully but i would not do it just as i would not do anything else i consider sinful but that is me, others have a right to feel otherwise :wink:

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Postby Paully_44 » April 5th, 2008, 2:04 pm

one love wrote:But never the less gambling is an addictive force just as drugs and ruins lives.


Is that why you consider gambling sinful, because it is addictive?
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Postby RamboPreacher » April 5th, 2008, 2:06 pm

Paully_44 wrote:
one love wrote:But never the less gambling is an addictive force just as drugs and ruins lives.


Is that why you consider gambling sinful, because it is addictive?
it appears that way - read through his posts, he seems to have a pretty specific definition of "gambling".
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Postby Susie Hamilton » April 5th, 2008, 2:18 pm

I think this is where the "all things in moderation" comes in. Someone could have a beer while watching a ball game, someone could have a glass of red wine for cholesterol problems with their dinner. As long as it is in moderation and not hurting anyone what is the problem? I have my mad money to do what I want with and when it runs out no more playing. Bottom line.
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Postby RamboPreacher » April 5th, 2008, 2:22 pm

Rahab wrote:I think this is where the "all things in moderation" comes in. Someone could have a beer while watching a ball game, someone could have a glass of red wine for cholesterol problems with their dinner. As long as it is in moderation and not hurting anyone what is the problem? I have my mad money to do what I want with and when it runs out no more playing. Bottom line.
while I may agree, there are those that are for absolute abstinence in those area's. :)
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Postby Susie Hamilton » April 5th, 2008, 2:28 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:
Rahab wrote:I think this is where the "all things in moderation" comes in. Someone could have a beer while watching a ball game, someone could have a glass of red wine for cholesterol problems with their dinner. As long as it is in moderation and not hurting anyone what is the problem? I have my mad money to do what I want with and when it runs out no more playing. Bottom line.
while I may agree, there are those that are for absolute abstinence in those area's. :)


And I understand. There are some people who cannot deal with moderation. With those people abstinance is the only solution. I would not advocate partaking in situations involving someone who has a problem with that area so as not to provoke their weaknesses.
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Postby one love » April 5th, 2008, 3:43 pm

is smoking crack, shooting heroin or snorting cocain, smoking pot a sin?
Please note why you feel the way you do with your answer and i feel we can get this right out. i said i could give a nice long post relative to holiness and why i feel this is sinful but I said i know what the reply would be, before i ever posted it i got the reply i knew i would get, therefore since the question has been posed answer these please and we will move forward.

smoking crack, heroin, cocaine, smoking weed, is it a sin and why or why not?


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