addictive sin?

[ichthus]

[quote="ichthus"}

Give one example. And when would it become a sin? The 2nd time? 3rd time?

example given, though I am sure I am not listing all the circumstances and variables, since it is a "what if" scenario and infinite variables are potential. I can not say when it would become sin for everyone, there are too many variables, and I would not like to get int o prejudgment and governing of morality for others without direct scriptural reference. however for me personally, it would become sin if I abuse it, if I begin hiding it, or if it becomes reckless, and other indirect issued that hinder me from relationship with God.

Paul said, "all things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything."

We are talking getting drunk here. I am not debating alcohol use. How in the world can you NOT abuse getting drunk? Not getting drunk too many times a week? I understand how one can not abuse alcohol. Paul is not saying getting drunk is lawful unto me. IF you as a Christian can purposely get drunk and not even feel a tiny whisper of the Holy Spirit saying "this is not right. that was wrong." and feel your conscience pricked, I would question what voice you were listening to, or if your consecience was already too far gone.

[Full Quiver]

You can lie once without being a habitual liar.
but bearing false witness/lying is a sin and there is scriptural reference of this and can be said to be a doctrinal stand.

Ex 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

What is the difference in these commands? Both say don't do something. Rambo said lying is always wrong but being drunk is not. The verse clearly says that being drunk on wine is excess.

[RamboPreacher]

...if I give an example, then you will say that I am condoning it for everyone and I am not. how about a Biblical example of celebrating at a wedding (not being reckless, and not driving while under the influence, and not negatively affecting family, friend or Godly relationship.)...

it was God! I knew you would do that.

...IF you as a Christian can purposely get drunk and not even feel a tiny whisper of the Holy Spirit saying "this is not right. that was wrong." and feel your conscience pricked, I would question what voice you were listening to, or if your consecience was already too far gone.

You can lie once without being a habitual liar.
but bearing false witness/lying is a sin and there is scriptural reference of this and can be said to be a doctrinal stand.

Ex 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

What is the difference in these commands? Both say don't do something. Rambo said lying is always wrong but being drunk is not. The verse clearly says that being drunk on wine is excess.

because the exodus scripture is a command. I have already addressed the Pauline topic you are plucking out, in this or another thread. feel free to look it up.

[Full Quiver]

You said I was taking it out of context. Command is a word that is just as much a rule as be not. Shall not, be not, what's the difference?

[PastorDaniel]

is heroin, cocaine and other narcotic drugs a sin? PLease explain your answer.

No sir, herioin, concaine and other narcotic drugs are not a sin......

using them are.....

Unless it's a prescription narcotic for a very specific purpose of course.

[PastorDaniel]

OK help me out here...Is a crack shooting, pot smoking, beer drinking homosexual scratching a lottery ticket a sinner?

It depends....how much were they wasting on the lottery?



Just kidding

[Paully_44]

I was being silly somewhat, but "Be not drunk with wine" is a command just like the one against adultery. To willfully do otherwise even if it is just once is a sin in both cases.

Wasn't the Adultry command written by God, and the "be not drunk" an admonishment by Paul?

To me, any moral command (a "do or don't") in Scripture is God-inspired and we are to obey it, whether it was penned by Moses, Isaiah, Peter, Paul, or John.

If God says to not do something isn't disobedience a sin?

Thanks for the answer. While I may not agree with it, I understand where you are coming from.