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Postby Pastor Gary » April 13th, 2008, 9:59 pm

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"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)

"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous;
you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)

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Postby Tracy » April 14th, 2008, 2:09 am

Shouldn't that read, "worship with a homeless man?"
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Postby sweetpea » April 14th, 2008, 2:19 am

Jesus had no home to lay His head.

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Postby Mister Ed » April 14th, 2008, 3:57 am

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Postby paul » April 14th, 2008, 4:14 am

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Jesus had noWHERE to lay His head.



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are you saying that in 33 years Jesus never had a place to lay His head ?
You cannot effectively love and minister to others when you are obsessed with protecting
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Postby Tracy » April 14th, 2008, 4:37 am

Oh! I get it. It is referring to Jesus?

I missed that completely. I was thinking--homeless people in service, worshipping with us, and then ignoring their needs the rest of the week.

I understand now.

Maybe I need more coffee :roll: yikes
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Postby dolfan » April 14th, 2008, 4:39 am

Answer: Because I'm not really worshipping Him at all?? {cringe}
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Postby Dr. Ron » April 14th, 2008, 4:56 am

I generally don't disagree with these kinds of things. And I don't "actually" disagree with the context of this one.....

But, I do take some degree of umbrage with this kind of "covert" legalism. It is basically saying that if Christians don't get involved in the "homeless" shelter, they are not christians.

I have a great number of people involved in a great number of ministries....as does PG and others of you.

Again, I DO agree with the context....but I would caution that we not lay guilt on people who don't deserve guilt.......

I think it was Jesus who said....."the poor you have with you always."
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Postby Pastor Bill » April 14th, 2008, 6:02 am

Dr. Ron, As a statement to churches I think this fits, but I agree, specific ministry direction is needed for individuals. We aren't all called to work in one specific type of ministry, and we need to encourage those differences, otherwise the diversity of the work gets ignored, and something won't get done, or won't get done well. Not to mention the "cookie-cutter" approach to ministry leaves some feeling they can't minister at all.
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Postby Pastor Gary » April 14th, 2008, 7:54 am

paul wrote:
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Jesus had noWHERE to lay His head.



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are you saying that in 33 years Jesus never had a place to lay His head ?


I am saying that, other than those under the influence of Hagin/Copeland/Avanzini and the like, who believe Jesus was wealthy... orthodox Christianity understands that when Jesus said "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head." he was telling a man who asked to follow him that if he chose that route, he would be forsaking home and family.
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Postby paul » April 14th, 2008, 9:18 am

Pastor Gary wrote:
paul wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:__________________

Jesus had noWHERE to lay His head.



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are you saying that in 33 years Jesus never had a place to lay His head ?


I am saying that, other than those under the influence of Hagin/Copeland/Avanzini and the like, who believe Jesus was wealthy... orthodox Christianity understands that when Jesus said "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head." he was telling a man who asked to follow him that if he chose that route, he would be forsaking home and family.


I agree with your statement, even if I have some other influences...., but not the last one. I failed to place the :lol: after my statement.
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Postby PastorDaniel » April 14th, 2008, 9:20 am

I like this very much and don't take it to specifically refer to working in a homeless shelter.

To me this refers to "service" period. It's the whole servant attitude. We must be servants.

I have stopped dismissing services...instead I send my congregation forth. I send them forth as laborers in the harvest and challange them to serve, to witness, and to be watchful!!

Too many times we get equipped during the church service, then we go home, take off our Sunday attire (both literally and spiritually), and put down everything we were equipped with and ignore it until the next service time!
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Postby Mister Ed » April 14th, 2008, 11:24 am

paul wrote:
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Jesus had noWHERE to lay His head.



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are you saying that in 33 years Jesus never had a place to lay His head ?



No. I was only quoting the words of Jesus from Luke 9:58. (just to make it clear that He did not say He had no home.) And I like PG's explanation of what Jesus had reference to in that verse.

I cannot think of Jesus ever being without a home during His ministry. Mary wouldn't have kicked Him out of her home when He left to fulfill His work here. So long as Mary and Joseph had a home, He had a home.

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Postby sweetpea » April 14th, 2008, 1:53 pm

Thank you for clearing that up.

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Postby DeWayneTN » April 15th, 2008, 2:56 am

I've heard some prosperity preachers interpret that verse to say that one of the disciples had made a mistake and neglected to book a room for Jesus for the night and His words were actually a complaint against them.
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