obama what a total loser!!!!

[KBevangelist]

[quote="DaJudge"]

As far as a Democrat with Christian values, there has been ONE in the last decade, and that was Zell Miller, and he got fed up and left politics.

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Best politician Georgia ever had.



KB

[crispfin]

I never said half breed and I did bring up what race he wants to claim. I stated what a local black leader and two self proclaimed leaders have said.

I was making a general comment, not specifically pointing only you out. I apologize if it seemd so. It just seemed such a strange topic.

You and every one of his defenders can do your best to re-word it, tell us what he intended and it only makes things worst.

I was merely stating his explanation. I was not rewording, and I pointed out that it was as I remembered. I am not trying to defend anyone. He said he mispoke, he clarified what he meant, and as I try to do with others, I give him the benefit of a doubt. If you don't like the explanation, your problem is not with me and you can voice your displeasure democratically.

[one love]

I cant imagine someone wanting socialism so bad, it bewilders me. I want higher taxes as much as i want to be homeless, which can go hand in hand when the economy really goes in the toliet.

Lets put someone in who will surely NEVER get our own oil and fix the gas price problem and place someone in who cares nothing for human life and will raise your taxes....

raise taxes and econmoy slows down more, lower taxes and people spend the money , the economy goes up and the government really recieves more revenue based on spending. Now when tax cuts happen and the wealthy those evil wealthy buisness owners get relief they hire people, imagine that.. Raise taxes they have to cutt there losses and cutt jobs.

[Full Quiver]

Sure Obama misspoke and so did Hillary on Bosnia.


mis·speak Audio Help /mɪsˈspik/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mis-speek] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object), -spoke, -spok·en, -speak·ing.
1. to speak, utter, or pronounce incorrectly.
2. to speak inaccurately, inappropriately, or too hastily.

I guess if it drops your poll numbers or gets you negative press then it can be classified as misspeaking.

[crispfin]

I guess if it drops your poll numbers or gets you negative press then it can be classified as misspeaking.

So can we count McCain's 100 years of occupation as a misspoke now or later when he gets clobbered over and over for it?

[dawgs10]

further more, because of his views like this i cant vote for him, but i wouldnt vote for macain if he was the last person on the face of the earth. under republican RULE this country wont even exist in the future. one day someone is just going to buy us out because of the debt and the republican party will be to blame. may be the trickle down money can pay off the debt. ya right!!!! wish there was such a thing as a democrat with christian values. because there wouldnt be a republican every go to the whitehouse again.

I feel much as you do about McCain. Don't like him, don't trust him. But I dislike and distrust Obama more. So what do I do?

I also agree that that the Republican party is messed up. I am to the point of just calling my self a Conservative, and not a Republican. The Republicans aren't conservative anymore. Economically, they are as big of spenders as the Democrats.

As far as a Democrat with Christian values, there has been ONE in the last decade, and that was Zell Miller, and he got fed up and left politics.

And if you think the Republicans screwed up the economy, just let Obama and Hillary get into office and try to "tax us into prosperity".

The only way to fix the national debt is to reduce spending on entitlements (social security, welfare, medicaid, etc), and neither party is willing to do that.

the only way to pay down the debt is to use TAX money and do it. you cant take away medicaid and social security. if you spend more than you take in you have debt. the income to the federal gov is taxes. sorry, thats the case. we need to focus on real defense of this nation and health care. that means take health care out of the hands of the people running companys and insurance companys and build up defense at home instead of invading other countries. its going to take years to fix the last eight. and i voted for bush twice because i cant find a dem. that is saved and acts like it that is running for pres.

[one love]

further more, because of his views like this i cant vote for him, but i wouldnt vote for macain if he was the last person on the face of the earth. under republican RULE this country wont even exist in the future. one day someone is just going to buy us out because of the debt and the republican party will be to blame. may be the trickle down money can pay off the debt. ya right!!!! wish there was such a thing as a democrat with christian values. because there wouldnt be a republican every go to the whitehouse again.

I feel much as you do about McCain. Don't like him, don't trust him. But I dislike and distrust Obama more. So what do I do?

I also agree that that the Republican party is messed up. I am to the point of just calling my self a Conservative, and not a Republican. The Republicans aren't conservative anymore. Economically, they are as big of spenders as the Democrats.

As far as a Democrat with Christian values, there has been ONE in the last decade, and that was Zell Miller, and he got fed up and left politics.

And if you think the Republicans screwed up the economy, just let Obama and Hillary get into office and try to "tax us into prosperity".

The only way to fix the national debt is to reduce spending on entitlements (social security, welfare, medicaid, etc), and neither party is willing to do that.

the only way to pay down the debt is to use TAX money and do it. you cant take away medicaid and social security. if you spend more than you take in you have debt. the income to the federal gov is taxes. sorry, thats the case. we need to focus on real defense of this nation and health care. that means take health care out of the hands of the people running companys and insurance companys and build up defense at home instead of invading other countries. its going to take years to fix the last eight. and i voted for bush twice because i cant find a dem. that is saved and acts like it that is running for pres.

cutting taxes actually creates more revenue for the government, we are bringing in more money now since the tax cuts but our spending is so high. It is basic economics if you cut taxes they spend there money and more jobs arre made etc which all brings in more tax dollars. Good economy with less taxes equals more money for everyone.

[Dr. Ron]

I can't believe some of you are dismissing the abortion issue like this.

The man said ( and he did not mispeak) "if my daughter got pregnant, I would not want her to be punished with a child...for making a dumb decision". Now if you can still believe that this man has even a modicum of compassion, ability, sensibility, love of God, ....this idiot is a joke. He has NO experience, no background to make him eligible for this job.

And I stick to my statements.

[dolfan]

I don't think he'll get much of the evangelical vote. He has this amazing ability to speak off the teleprompter and say some really dumb things. The whole abortion thing, the bitter/guns/religion/antipathy thing. I don't care if he misspoke or whatever; he said what he said. It is easy to stir words around when you talk so much as these folks are doing, but come on. He wants to have it both ways on those remarks about bitterness and I'm just not buying it. I've given him a lot of leeway about Rev. Wright, but this is just his heart: small town, rural people are bitter, hateful and cling to guns and religion because, bless their hearts, they don't have Big Government doing enough for them, poor little things. Puhleeze.

Bob Barr for President.

[RamboPreacher]

I can't believe some of you are dismissing the abortion issue like this.

The man said ( and he did not mispeak) "if my daughter got pregnant, I would not want her to be punished with a child...for making a dumb decision". Now if you can still believe that this man has even a modicum of compassion, ability, sensibility, love of God, ....this idiot is a joke. He has NO experience, no background to make him eligible for this job.

And I stick to my statements.

agreed. my previous post addressing it

life is precious.

[soulsearcher]

I can't believe some of you are dismissing the abortion issue like this.

The man said ( and he did not mispeak) "if my daughter got pregnant, I would not want her to be punished with a child...for making a dumb decision". Now if you can still believe that this man has even a modicum of compassion, ability, sensibility, love of God, ....this idiot is a joke. He has NO experience, no background to make him eligible for this job.

And I stick to my statements.

And I'm stickin' in there with you all the way, bro

[DaJudge]

the only way to pay down the debt is to use TAX money and do it. you cant take away medicaid and social security. if you spend more than you take in you have debt. the income to the federal gov is taxes. sorry, thats the case. we need to focus on real defense of this nation and health care. that means take health care out of the hands of the people running companys and insurance companys and build up defense at home instead of invading other countries. its going to take years to fix the last eight. and i voted for bush twice because i cant find a dem. that is saved and acts like it that is running for pres.

There's so much wrong with what you said dawgs10, that I don't even know where to begin. Lets start here.

you cant take away medicaid and social security.

No where in my post will you find me advocating "taking away medicaid and social security". What you have to do if REFORM it. Ask any economist and they will tell you that there is no way that we will be able to continue to pay for these entitlement programs in their current form. There are so many baby boomers reaching retirement age, that it will bankrupt the system. They are going to have to means test Social Security and other benefits. People your and my age will NEVER get a social security check. That system will be dead by the time we retire.

if you spend more than you take in you have debt. the income to the federal gov is taxes.

This is true. The way to cut that debt is not through raising taxes though. It's through decreasing spending. As onelove said, in the real world, increasing taxes actually DECREASES revenue. It gives citizens less money to spend. When they spend less, they buy fewer goods and services. The people making those goods and providing those services lose their jobs. When they lose their jobs, they don't pay taxes... leading to less tax revenue. Raising taxes is counterproductive if balancing the budget is your goal.

we need to focus on real defense of this nation

If you are implying that the war in Iraq is what's causing the deficit, you are dead wrong. Defense spending accounts for only 20% of the federal budget, and is decreasing proportionally every year. Meanwhile entitlement spending proportionally increases every year (SS, Medicaid, Welfare, etc). Cutting the defense budget won't get the job done.

that means take health care out of the hands of the people running companys and insurance companys

Do you really think that the government will do a better job at running the health care industry than private companies do? Does the US Post Office Department do a better job of delivering packages than the FEDEX does? The government screws up everything it touches, why would health care be any different. Right now we have the greatest health care system in the world. Do you know that people in Canada and the UK (which have government run "free" healthcare) routinely come here for operations that they can't get in their home countries? Why would we want to emulate them?

build up defense at home instead of invading other countries.

My friend, in a world with nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles, you can't have a home defense with out being proactive overseas. If defending our nation means taking out Iran before they develop a nuke (which they will within 10 years), then I'm for turning that country into a parking lot, preemptive war or not.

i voted for bush twice because i cant find a dem. that is saved and acts like it that is running for pres.

And you won't in 2008, 2012, or 2016. Because a dem who has Christian values is unelectable in the democratic party on a national scale.

[Dr. Ron]

HOgs, I get the feeling you might have not been in the military nor have traveled much overseas.

How about world history???

I recommend a good course in all the above.

Your reactions are totally the reverse of your faith.

[crispfin]

Your reactions are totally the reverse of your faith.

Are you really saying that because they don't agree with your politics they are denying the faith? People may disagree with other believers on political and other matters, but to accuse the other of acting against Christ because they don't agree with you is kinda going out on a limb and sawwing it off.

[Dr. Ron]

No, I am not talking politics.....I am talking about the right or wrong of abortion.

Any man who makes the statement that a child is a " punishment" if concieved out of wedlock, is not a "christian" in my biblical view. If you agree that abortion is acceptable to God, then I question your faith....it's that simple.

I never made reference to his "politics". After listening to him for almost a year......I am convinced that he doesn't have a clue what he believes....almost as bad as Hilary.

I am against abortion....that is not a political issue to me. That is right and wrong....life and death.