For raiding the Palygamist Sect:.............
FOR THOSE WHO DISPISE THE LAW!......
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Mister Ed
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FOR THOSE WHO DISPISE THE LAW!......
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For raiding the Palygamist Sect:.............
For raiding the Palygamist Sect:.............
These people are goofs
I know these people are goofs BUT...
How many 14-17 year olds outside the compound would be pregnant without birth control?
Also how many whore mongers run around with multiple partners the results of which the tax payers end up funding while the LAW is silent.
How many 14-17 year olds outside the compound would be pregnant without birth control?
Also how many whore mongers run around with multiple partners the results of which the tax payers end up funding while the LAW is silent.
What we need here is a good revival! lol
Re: These people are goofs
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How many 14-17 year olds outside the compound would be pregnant without birth control?
Amen, Scooter
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Jan
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crispfinagin wrote:Also how many whore mongers run around with multiple partners the results of which the tax payers end up funding while the LAW is silent.
What would you have the LAW do about these "whore mongers" as you say or tax payer funded "results" by which I guess you mean the children?
Response: You don't really want the answer to that.
What we need here is a good revival! lol
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Gerald Creasy
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Gerald Creasy wrote:Teens having sex is only wrong in the governments eyes if those teens are part of some religious system.
After all the government will fight to get your 11 year old girl condoms so she CAN have sex (it's been done).
It's the age of the guy the 11 year old is having sex with that the government is taking issue with, and I agree. (Not that two 11 year olds having sex is OK either...)
Well I have a few thoughts.
My grandmother got married at 15 and first kid before she was 16
My other grandmother had her first child when she was 15.
When I was in HS, we had three girls get preg their sr year which was alot, even for a 94% Catholic town. I was told right now that same school has 6 or 7 preg 8th graders.
It is funny that when it is a female teacher with a young boy student, for the most part the women get off very easy.
The law is in stone, the enforcement is selective.
My grandmother got married at 15 and first kid before she was 16
My other grandmother had her first child when she was 15.
When I was in HS, we had three girls get preg their sr year which was alot, even for a 94% Catholic town. I was told right now that same school has 6 or 7 preg 8th graders.
It is funny that when it is a female teacher with a young boy student, for the most part the women get off very easy.
The law is in stone, the enforcement is selective.
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dolfan
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It's a slippery slope this thing with religion and public welfare. You all know I am strongly on the side of liberty and government leaving us alone. But, I'm strongly for protecting kids from predators, too.
I think the government got this one right. They got Waco wrong, they got Ruby Ridge wrong, they got Elian Gonzales wrong, but they got this one right. Like someone said on another thread here recently, even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. In this case, it got a whole compound of 'em, and rescued the kids from continued physical abuse. It'll never be able to cure the damage that's been done to them, however.
Personally, I don't see where this case translates into any other social ills and their remedies very well. Not a lot of lessons to learn here, in my view.
I think the government got this one right. They got Waco wrong, they got Ruby Ridge wrong, they got Elian Gonzales wrong, but they got this one right. Like someone said on another thread here recently, even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. In this case, it got a whole compound of 'em, and rescued the kids from continued physical abuse. It'll never be able to cure the damage that's been done to them, however.
Personally, I don't see where this case translates into any other social ills and their remedies very well. Not a lot of lessons to learn here, in my view.
Human government bears the same relation to hell as the church bears to heaven. (David Lipscomb, On Civil Government, 72).
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Mister Ed
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I suppose there is no need for me to say that I agree with dolfan on his assessment of the polygamist raid, after my initial post, and I know that no one here condones what was done to these young girls. And I didn’t mean anything personal to anyone by my opening statement, I just thought it would be an attention getter after all the discussion about the ‘Torah'.
And I don't mean this as a confrontation to anyone, this is only my views on what I read and hear.
But I do believe some drastic measures needed to be done it that situation. The government is trying to determine who the children’s mothers are because children born to teenagers in a situation like this are usually taken by the teen’s mother or another mother and raised as her own in order to shield the teen from the law. So over a period of years the situation is not much different than an animal kingdom.
Maybe there was excessive force used at Waco, but that situation was not long after the Jim Jones death camp in Guyana in which a senator and 4 newsmen were killed trying to investigate the stories coming from some who were leaving the cult, which later turned into a mass suicide of over 900. Since then nothing much is left to chance. The government is pretty much determined that one man is not going to take it down.
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I suppose there is no need for me to say that I agree with dolfan on his assessment of the polygamist raid, after my initial post, and I know that no one here condones what was done to these young girls. And I didn’t mean anything personal to anyone by my opening statement, I just thought it would be an attention getter after all the discussion about the ‘Torah'.
And I don't mean this as a confrontation to anyone, this is only my views on what I read and hear.
But I do believe some drastic measures needed to be done it that situation. The government is trying to determine who the children’s mothers are because children born to teenagers in a situation like this are usually taken by the teen’s mother or another mother and raised as her own in order to shield the teen from the law. So over a period of years the situation is not much different than an animal kingdom.
Maybe there was excessive force used at Waco, but that situation was not long after the Jim Jones death camp in Guyana in which a senator and 4 newsmen were killed trying to investigate the stories coming from some who were leaving the cult, which later turned into a mass suicide of over 900. Since then nothing much is left to chance. The government is pretty much determined that one man is not going to take it down.
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