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Postby forestwalker » May 6th, 2008, 11:04 am

Pastor Gary wrote:Just because he didn't remember the NAME of the person...

Or her position, or her expertise, or the data she was citing as "verified". Is this someone who actually knows what they're talking about or just a political appointee to some commission? The statement is at such odds with statements of most reputable sources my raised eyebrow isn't a sign of unreasonable obstinacy and certainly doesn't warrant an eye roll.
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Postby MacUser » May 6th, 2008, 12:26 pm

If it's proven you will support us drilling our own properties to retrieve this amazing black fluid, eh?

You will get behind a grass roots campaign to bring back the BLACK!! :lol:
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Postby Full Quiver » May 6th, 2008, 12:41 pm

Though a gas tax holiday wouldn't really help us regular folks but wouldn't it help the trucking industry, since they purchase so much fuel? With that said then it could trickle down to the store shelves and help us regular folks.
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Postby RuSKY » May 6th, 2008, 12:43 pm

MrDanger wrote:.
2. The technology that is used today is not harmful to the environment like it was 30 years ago when a lot of the laws were passed against drilling in those areas.


...and the exxon valdez will never run aground and the captain will never get drunk.....Love Canal is a safe place to build a home and a great community to raise your childeren..... and nuclear energy is the way to go, three mile island reactors are perfectly safe and there will never be
human error or earth quakes.......The levy's in the 9th ward will withstand any huricane that we are apt to encounter.

While we have to have energy, believing that the government and big business would be truthful and above board with us has proven to be something one couldn't count on in the past. They will tell us anyting for a $.

It is true, if we are to continue to be a thriving economic force in this world, we have to have energy.

If the taxes are raised on gasoline products and/or the price keeps going up, the solution that will bring is, the wealthy will be able
to buy and the poor will not.

There seems to be plenty, as long as you have $3.65 per gallon to pay.

Personally, I haven't been turnd away from any filling station at which I have stopped to fill up.

Recently, On a trip to visit our grandchildren, the traffic was unusually heavy. I told my wife, if the price goes to $6.00, the roads will have to be widened the roads to accomodate the increase in traffic.

Alas, I don't know what the answer is for us. The only thing I can think of is... "even so, come Lord Jesus."

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Postby rjjunior » May 6th, 2008, 8:30 pm

MrDanger wrote:Really Forestwalker? According to an individual in charge of the oil reserves in the US was interviewed on The Phil Valentine Show. She stated two key points.

1. We have more oil than they do in the Middle East that is verified.
2. The technology that is used today is not harmful to the environment like it was 30 years ago when a lot of the laws were passed against drilling in those areas.


Well, if you're talking oil shale, then yes, we got it.

wikipedia wrote:The United States has the largest known deposits of oil shale in the world, according to the Bureau of Land Management and holds an estimated 2,500 gigabarrels of potentially recoverable oil, enough to meet U.S. demand for oil at current rates for 110 years. However, oil shale does not actually contain oil, but a waxy oil precursor known as kerogen. For this reason and because there is not yet any significant commercial production of oil from oil shale in the United States as of 2008, its oil shale reserves do not meet the petroleum industry definition of proven oil reserves.


Estimated oil reserves? No.
Country Reserves 1 Production 2 Reserve life 3
(109bbl) (106bbl/d) (years)
Saudi Arabia 260 8.8 81
Canada 179 2.7 182
Iraq 115 3.7 101
Iran 105 3.9 74
Kuwait 99 2.5 108
United Arab Emirates 97 2.5 107
Venezuela 80 2.4 91
Russia 60 9.5 17
Libya 41.5 1.8 63
Nigeria 36.2 2.3 43
United States 21 4.9 12
Mexico 12 3.2 10

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Postby one love » May 6th, 2008, 8:58 pm

Well I cant see how giving me $30.00 is going to help. Now the stimulus package "if I was getting one" would greatly help and will help many of you and most people. But Thirty dollars is an insult to us , come on we are smarter then this. It is just a last minute ATTEMPT to make a difference between two of the worst candidates in history by touching on something that is effecting us. The true amount that it would cost the government to give us thirty dollars would actually in my opinion cost us more as time goes on because of the road conditions and bridges that would not be built, causing more traffic and hence "MORE GAS"
When McCain say we will not build a bridge somewhere well that is only 100-300 million so what about the other BILLIONS OF DOLLARS just so we can have thirty dollars?????? I’m all about tax cuts but that is not really a tax cut and make it all worse.

I like the stimulus package because it can help, even my business. People could get floors, cars, clothes, extra food, TV's, home repairs, pay debt etc this helps. $30 dollars will not help you and could cause lay offs of workers that do the construction we are talking billions. Is it worth it NO.


Alaska wants us to drill there so why not do what we need to do and WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO. If your state had the federal Government wanting to do something in your state that create Jobs, money , better economy, Lower gas prices and others not in your state say no, how would you feel. Someone else knows better what to do with your own land/??? Not to mention the MAJORITY o America wants us to drill in our own nation.
Yes Shale is there not perfect but can work, then there are other states as well, DRILL AND FIND OUT OR WE WILL BE DONE, NO MORE SUPER POWER OR SUCCESS. If we would have lost the refinery in Katrina they said we would have gone to the great depression in 30 days, this is serious.

WAKE UP AMERCIA BEFORE THERE IS NOT ONE. WE NEED OUR OWN OIL, THAT IS IT. WE ARE ADDICTS AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE UNLESS NEW WAYS ARE INVINTED BUT UNTIL THEN WE MUST HAVE OUR OWN OIL TO SURVIVE.
If you are sick and are going to die unless you take this medicine, surely you would want to live however the medicine cant be given because the government will not allow you to get it out of your own country to please a bunch of whacko’s, WE ARE A NATION FACING THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM EVER AND THE WORLD KNOWS IT, WE SIMPLY JUST DONT SEEM TO REALLY GET THIS.

Sorry about this long post but the leader of Iran said a few years back on TV America beat the soviet union and were genius in doing so.
He stated :
1. they made people raise there gas prices
2. they hurt there economy
3. and THEY GOT THEM IN WARS THEY WILL NEVER WIN.

HE THEN STATED THIS IS HOW WE WILL BEAT THE UNITED STATES, HMMM LOOK AROUND FOLKS....SOUND FAMILIAR??????
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Postby MrDanger » May 7th, 2008, 4:11 am

forestwalker wrote:
DaJudge wrote:We've got more oil in the US than you can shake a stick at

Y'all keep saying that but it just ain't true.


Don't you love it when someone makes general statements but want specifics when you say something different. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I went to Phil's website and he didn't have anything listed about the lady he was interviewing. If you really want to know more about it, go to www.philvalentine.com and email him. He usually answers his email. Not that anything will change your opinion of what you believe. Not going to waste my time researching something further that you may or may not believe. I've given you the source (show wise) for the info and how to find out more if you really do care. If your were just wanting to be contrary, don't waste your time. :wink:
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Postby RamboPreacher » May 7th, 2008, 4:21 am

back the black - American black, that is!
Go MacUser, Go Macuser, GO!!
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Postby crispfin » May 7th, 2008, 5:07 am

3. and THEY GOT THEM IN WARS THEY WILL NEVER WIN.

Whew! Thank God that last one hasn't happened. :roll:

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Postby one love » May 7th, 2008, 5:25 am

crispfinagin wrote:
3. and THEY GOT THEM IN WARS THEY WILL NEVER WIN.

Whew! Thank God that last one hasn't happened. :roll:


well this is a 2 part answer. Yes I feel the war in afg... was neccesary as was Iraq however they made it that way. They know if we fight them it is endless wars and will drain our economy. They know high oil will crush us, the man (LEADER OF IRAN) called Reagan a "genius" and said he will beat us the same way we beat the soviet union, the really only way one can beat a super power. We need our own oil and stop funding them. Second if we are going to go to war do it and get out. But with so many liberals playing politics with our military and the No drilling they make it impossible and we must wake up.
So yes by terror they are getting us in wars , we can win but we must have the support of our nation/congress and let politicians work together to save this nation or they can fight over a big , broke, nation.
YES OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS GET OUR OWN OIL PERIOD, NUMBER ONE ISSUE ABOVE ALL ELSE. THEN SEE HOW GOOD THERE WARS ARE. WITHOUT OUR MONEY

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Postby MacUser » May 7th, 2008, 5:43 am

RamboPreacher wrote:back the black - American black, that is!
Go MacUser, Go Macuser, GO!!


Absolutely. Call your congressman and senators.

Chant:
Bring back the BLACK!
Repeat: Bring Back The BLACK!

Everyone buy black autos, were black suits, wear black shirts & jeans. black ties. Let's get America back in the BLACK.

Deregulate, Drop Taxes, Drill, & Do PSA's on how OIL is GOOD.
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Postby A2JGirl » May 7th, 2008, 5:52 am

MacUser wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:back the black - American black, that is!
Go MacUser, Go Macuser, GO!!


Absolutely. Call your congressman and senators.

Chant:
Bring back the BLACK!
Repeat: Bring Back The BLACK!

Everyone buy black autos, were black suits, wear black shirts & jeans. black ties. Let's get America back in the BLACK.



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Postby Sherry » May 7th, 2008, 7:52 am

MacUser wrote:
Everyone buy black autos, were black suits, wear black shirts & jeans. black ties.


Black was so last year.... :roll:

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Postby MacUser » May 7th, 2008, 8:18 am

A2JGirl wrote:.... sing Johnny Cash songs...


Awesome Jingle idea....

Gulp, Gulp, Gulp.. Honk, Honk

Oil. Is a Beautiful thing. What cars, like mine drink.
Govt. I think drilling is required.. Orrrr my Gas Prices will go higher.

My gas tank has a strong desire. It's going up, up, up... and they say much HIGHER, so you're gonna get FIRED if this Green Hoax makes it go higher.

Honk, Honk... Gulp, Gulp, Gulp...



Black is Back!
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Postby Jeremy Gault » May 7th, 2008, 9:31 am

Moonshine...75 cents a gallon, my friend...moonshine.


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