Is It Any Wonder?

[Pastor Bill]

Karen, I agree with you, rude and tacky stuff. But bringing your dirty laundry into our laundry room for us to clean is also rude, don't you agree?

Rose,
I didn't see it as MY dirty laundry. I guess in a way it seemed to me to be similar to bringing someone before the church since this seems to be their home forum.

I think that was the point, the equivalent of bringing him before the church, would mean that you have already addressed this to him personally, as well as went to him with two or three others. Have you done that? or was this less about restoring a brother, and more about publicly showing his sin?

Actually,
It didn't cross my mind to PM them. Anyways, I have been attacked so many times by different people, it just didn't seem to really matter so I might just as well keep everything in the open and and in the light.

Have you thought that it many not have "crossed his mind" that you would be offended or that it would be taken in a way other than the joking way he says it was intended. (not taking up for him, but honestly you are pointing blame, that's not a christian attribute, and the fact that it didn't even cross your mind to handle this biblically, and when it's brought up you point out your being attacked rather than addressing your poor method of handling this shows that your intent is to draw attention to the sin of others and your own perceived martyrdom.

Let's take this from the beginning and handle it right.

[Karen in PM]Stevenson, that really seemed inappropriate[/Karen]

[Stevenson replies]Sorry, it was meant jokingly, didn't mean to offend you[/Stevenson]

[Karen]Thank you for apologizing, apology accepted[/Karen]

well wouldn't that have worked much better?

[Karen]

Karen,
it was all in a joking manner. And your the one who came on to Jude2 and started condenming all of us and our beliefs. You made a statement,

Anyways, I have been attacked so many times by different people,

. Why do you think that is?
Maybe it's because your the one with the problem!

Well folks, I guess it is all my fault that Stevensons went on another forum, bad mouthed me and compared me to satan. I guess I deserved it because I debated different beliefs, although I don't remember outright condemming anyone for their particular belief even though they took it that way.

I have never claimed to be perfect and I know that very few here like me, but if it is acceptable for someone who is a minister to treat ANYONE this way, it is no wonder that the Holy Spirit is grieved and that the power of God is not seen more than it is.

[Gerald Creasy]

I have never claimed to be perfect and I know that very few here like me, but if it is acceptable for someone who is a minister to treat ANYONE this way, it is no wonder that the Holy Spirit is grieved and that the power of God is not seen more than it is.

All this talk about "greiving the Holy Spirit" seems mind numbingly ridiculous coming from someone who follows the empty headed cultic nonsense of Rood.

[Full Quiver]

WHOA!

I got a pm, responded, and then I saw this.

[INLOVE]

Karen,
it was all in a joking manner. And your the one who came on to Jude2 and started condenming all of us and our beliefs. You made a statement,

Anyways, I have been attacked so many times by different people,

. Why do you think that is?
Maybe it's because your the one with the problem!

Well folks, I guess it is all my fault that Stevensons went on another forum, bad mouthed me and compared me to satan. I guess I deserved it because I debated different beliefs, although I don't remember outright condemming anyone for their particular belief even though they took it that way.

I have never claimed to be perfect and I know that very few here like me, but if it is acceptable for someone who is a minister to treat ANYONE this way, it is no wonder that the Holy Spirit is grieved and that the power of God is not seen more than it is.

No Karen, what he wrote is not your fault. However, bringing it here is.

[Karen]

Are there no just judges to be found in the land? Do you just want to continue to add another blow, and another, and another, and another....

I see mostly hearts of stone.........not of flesh.

[Susie Hamilton]

Karen, what part of Va are you in?

[Karen]

Karen, what part of Va are you in?

Why do you say "I survived God's will"?

[Susie Hamilton]

Karen, what part of Va are you in?

Why do you say "I survived God's will"?

Have you ever fought God's will because it wasn't what you thot you wanted only to find out it was exactly what you needed and eventually wanted? That is my answer. What is yours?

[EagerBeaver]

Are there no just judges to be found in the land? Do you just want to continue to add another blow, and another, and another, and another....

I see mostly hearts of stone.........not of flesh.

Woe is us! Woe is us oh great Karen! Why dost thou continue to waste thy God-given time on us heathen vipers?

[Jennifer Smith]

Are there no just judges to be found in the land? Do you just want to continue to add another blow, and another, and another, and another....

I see mostly hearts of stone.........not of flesh.

Hi Karen, this is a public forum, and if you open a discussion up publicly amongst a group of people that have formed a community, you are going to get some honest feedback. It isn't that we are trying to rub it in, but a little humility on your part in acceptance of what has been said would help us to know that you understood. For the most part, we have become a pretty peaceful board and not tolerating backbiting and gossip is part of that. Even though what you shared was true, it just wasn't the right way to share it... I don't mean to gang up on you, though; I understand it is painful to have the feeling of being corrected but I feel like Shellie and the others have done it in a gentle way, so your comment about hearts of stone just isn't right, and doesn't set well.

[Paully_44]

Are there no just judges to be found in the land? Do you just want to continue to add another blow, and another, and another, and another....

I see mostly hearts of stone.........not of flesh.

Hearts of stone?? that is a tad judgemental.

so if one agreed with you then the heart would not be of stone or the judge would not be unjust?

[Susie Hamilton]

Karen, I have tried to be nice to you. Imagine this situation. I have a big cookout and invite lots of friends and their friends. During the cookout a bunch of us are sitting around laughing and having fun. Then out of nowhere one of the friends friends walks up, without introducing themself, and starts telling us how we are deceived and lectures us. How would you take that? You still have not answered my question as to where you live in Va. Evidently your rules do not apply to us. I am getting hurt now by your attitude.

[one love]

Im from va beach rahab pretty close to you

Karen I think the point of stevenson was to liven up utr and let you and another guy there debate......

Sorry you were hurt I made a post in that as well but not to be offensive I wanted you to debate...i forget his name but anyway..

[Susie Hamilton]

Im from va beach rahab pretty close to you

Karen I think the point of stevenson was to liven up utr and let you and another guy there debate......

Sorry you were hurt I made a post in that as well but not to be offensive I wanted you to debate...i forget his name but anyway..

I know you are close. I still have the BTI books in my truck, waiting for you. Hope your back is feeling better.