Gas Plan MUST be right then...

[crispfin]

But with so many liberals playing politics with our military and the No drilling they make it impossible and we must wake up.

So you think it's the democrats and not Bush's terrible preperation and handling of the Iraq War that's made it a mess over there?

So yes by terror they are getting us in wars , we can win but we must have the support of our nation/congress and let politicians work together to save this nation or they can fight over a big , broke, nation.

I'm a little confuse on one thing, not making any accusations, but are you implying that the president of Iran had something to do with 911? I'm probably misunderstanding you, if so, I'm sorry. Another thing I wonder is how you win a war against an ideology like terrorism? Can an idea be defeated by trying to kill everyone who holds it? And further, isn't it wise to determine what causes people who I would assume have many of the same general desires as I do to buy into this violent ideology and support it to the extent of their own deaths? That's something I wonder about and thing we've missed in this whole terror war because we've been myopically focussed on only military solutions. Just my take.

[one love]

But with so many liberals playing politics with our military and the No drilling they make it impossible and we must wake up.

So you think it's the democrats and not Bush's terrible preperation and handling of the Iraq War that's made it a mess over there?

So yes by terror they are getting us in wars , we can win but we must have the support of our nation/congress and let politicians work together to save this nation or they can fight over a big , broke, nation.

I'm a little confuse on one thing, not making any accusations, but are you implying that the president of Iran had something to do with 911? I'm probably misunderstanding you, if so, I'm sorry. Another thing I wonder is how you win a war against an ideology like terrorism? Can an idea be defeated by trying to kill everyone who holds it? And further, isn't it wise to determine what causes people who I would assume have many of the same general desires as I do to buy into this violent ideology and support it to the extent of their own deaths? That's something I wonder about and thing we've missed in this whole terror war because we've been myopically focussed on only military solutions. Just my take.

good questions I will respond when i get back

[one love]

Im not saying Iran did 9-11 but as extremist he is preaching/telling in news conferences how to beat us and that is his claim that reagan was a genius and that we will be beat the same way, it can happen. We can win this if it is done right and having our own oil and getting that money out of there pocket will be a start. I know they can still sell it but if we stop just a major portion of our buying from them it will be a big dent. There are many things we can do but we must get our own oil, we let china dril off od the coast of Florida but we dont let ourselves.This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Im telling you this is our weak point "oil" we must have our own oil period anyone who feels otherwise is not thinking clearly.

[AllenNope]

Every barrel we buy we refine ourselves. Every barrel they pump they look to us to refine. We sell the refined product back to them. There are only a few refinieries in the world.

70% of the high cost problem is the free market (supply and demand). China and India have increased there demand astonomically over the past few years. The other 30% give or take is greed. greed by the oil companies and politicians.

The only time we will actually get started working on solutions is when prices at the pump hit $9 or higher a gallon. At that time, the high cost will hurt the wallets of enough people to the point that the American people will stand up and say enough and then force the goverment to do something about it(i.e. other fuels, drill in America, new nuclear plants). Which are all long term solutions. there are no wuick band aids for this wound.

Goverment solves problems only once it goes through a cycle.

1. Deny the problem as long as they can.
2. When you canot deny it anymore throw money at it and act like you are doing something.
3. When the money runs out or people see through the lie actully try to solve it.

The way I see it we are still in phase 2.

thougts from a mad man.

[crispfin]

Im telling you this is our weak point "oil" we must have our own oil period anyone who feels otherwise is not thinking clearly.

No doubt energy is probably the biggest challenge we're gonna face, and if we can't get more of it or new energy sources we're gonna be in a real squeeze between it and China becoming our crediter.

[one love]

Im telling you this is our weak point "oil" we must have our own oil period anyone who feels otherwise is not thinking clearly.

No doubt energy is probably the biggest challenge we're gonna face, and if we can't get more of it or new energy sources we're gonna be in a real squeeze between it and China becoming our crediter.

china in general is bothersome....there economy is on the rise really quick and there military is no small thing....our investors are really working with china because they know there is money to be made there. Warren Buffet is there constantly working to join his insurance with the government insurance......
They are todays sleeping giant as we used to be.