All Republicans are going to heaven!

[EagerBeaver]

Can I make a plea to those on both sides of the issue who are invoking war time economics in Iraq and comparing it to World War II?

PLEASE STOP!

I challenge anyone who dares to compare the "War on Terror" to World War II on the economic front to sign up for military service, spend a good chunk of your life in Iraq, study what's going on, then come home, sit down and realize that our good hard earned money is being spent on babysitting a people of whom the vast majority do not want, do not appreciate and do not need our help.

World War II was completely different. The free, and for the most part, oppressed world was unified in the view that the Axis powers were trying to conquer the world and needed to be stopped. The help that was given in that war was received with appreciation and gratitude. People looked to the United States as their saviors.

Nowadays it is such a different story, for many different reasons that we are all too aware of.

Changing gears now...

It is true that there is more to the economy than who is in the White House. People have been screaming for years, even during economic booms, that our money is based on a flawed system. Look back to the days of President Wilson to see when it all started...it's been building for years ever since we eliminated the gold standard.

Just grab a dollar bill and look at it...it says "Federal Reserve Note." In 1933 Congress passed HJR-192 (read more about that here). So what is our currency based on?

Think about this...all the United States money is owed to the Federal Reserve Bank. A privately owned bank, at that. The fact that the US owed the FRB money it didn't have prompted it to come up with a whole new financial system which has devalued the current dollar to a fraction of what it was worth at the turn of the 20th century.

Which means one thing...our currency is based on debt. Really scary if you think about the fact those greenbacks you give Wal-Qaeda for your bottled water don't mean squat. Technically you don't even own the house you bought with your hard-earned "money."

So if you want to blame our economic woes on someone, trace it to its source, Congress in 1933...and the ultimate transgressor, the Federal Reserve Bank. Those morons cutting our interest rates are solely responsible for the devaluation of our dollar, which really wasn't worth much in the first place.

[one love]

Thank you dajudge!

This young man has proven he is incapable of giving anyone a lesson in war time economics. War costs money......period....but the dems just keep on piling up the "entitlement " issues.

Ask any soldier who he would prefer to have as commander in chief. I can tell you easily.....

Just before the invasion of Iwo Jima...the first time we actually tried to take Japanese soil, the nation was broke....we had financed Russia on that front, England, and most every country in the world.

We went into a sacrificial mode that put us into bankruptcy....or something near it....only the people of this country willing to sacrifice and buy war bonds kept us from speaking German.

Yes we have to incur debt. President Bush has done an amazing job with the amount of money he has had available.

Do I like deficet spending? NO ...but if you are holding Clinton up as an example of fiduciary responsibility, you need to take off the "dem" colored glasses.

Hope you soon see the light or learn farsi.

most people with any sense of responsibily at all will tell you that iraq is not ww11 or japan. when clinton left office there was a surplus. thats a fact. before 9-11 the surplus had been all but wiped out. dont like clinton and think he is crazy on most subjects but he left office with a suplus. fact. i dont remember a rep. that has. matter of fact name one. but you can cut school funding and art funding and funding for roads and funding for vets insurence if ya want. i would rather pay a 3 cent sales tax. i am not that greedy to think that a few dollars from everyone could help mankind. i know when i cross the state line into tenn. it feels like i am driving in a tank. no state tax up there and the hotel tax dont pay for it like it used to. we need to look at history and understand that tax dollars are not always an evil thing. we just need people in washington that will do the right thing with it.

did you even read the numbers of the basis of the conversation. Next I do believe the first President bush came within 1 percent 17% rev 18% spending that was with the war. Clinton Brought a big surplus but he did nothing to get it nothing he did brought that money in. If you disagree tell me what policy did it. It was the dot com boom, it brought millions to simple programmers everywhere the stock market went crazy high so all those taxes were coming in, yet before he left office it was a recession, we seem to forget that. Put Clinton in Bush's presidency and compare there agendas. Bush did do something to save the economy he actually did something not reaping benefits of a technology boom he lowered taxes and as you saw in my post what happened dawgs when he did that.
It is there and you did not acknowledge that raising taxes is less revenue I PROVED that his tax cuts increased revenue. I don’t deny Clinton had an phenomenal difference in spending and revenue but can you credit anything that he did to do that. People calls bush a liar but no proof yet Clinton lied and committed perjury but that is ok, we would be in jail

[Dr. Ron]

Eagerbeaver,

I have not had the distinct honor of serving in Iraq. But my son has served in both Iraq and in Afghanistan.

His take on things is 180 degrees different from yours ....as is most of my service men in my church. I have a young man who is special forces...(green beret) and he agrees with my son.

However, for you to think you cannot compare the two wars is to not know much about the nations history in contrast. That is where the real issues lie.

I thank you for your service ....I am sorry you feel that the war on terror is not equivicable to any other war.....it is.

[DaJudge]

i am not that greedy to think that a few dollars from everyone could help mankind..

Greedy? Dawgs, for the average American, every dime he or she makes from Jan 1 until April 23 goes to pay Federal, state, or local taxes!!!!!

Do you really think we need to pay more????????


And let me tell you this too, you and everyone else can send your whole paycheck to Washington, 365 days a year, and guess what, the politicians will still spend it all and run up a debt.

If you want to pay more taxes, there's nothing stopping you. Send the government extra with your tax return every year.

[DaJudge]

Chris. I just want to tell you that I appreciate your service in Iraq. I think that you and others like you did an important service for our country. Whether you realize it or not now, you are a hero and you played a part in keeping our country safe from terrorism. It grieves me that the liberal propaganda machine and mindset has robbed you of the satisfaction of a job well done

Again, I thank you buddy.

[EagerBeaver]

Dr. Ron and DaJudge--

I'm not trying to state that I'm not proud of what I did. I am very proud of the job I did in Iraq, I believe I shot some compelling footage and was able to hone my craft a bit better. If I hadn't have gone to Iraq I probably wouldn't be as strong a Christian as I am (that's a different story for a different day), and I definitely wouldn't have the multimedia job I have now.

Nor am I trying to say that the war in Iraq is miniscule compared to WW2. All I am saying is there is no comparison, the circumstances are different, and we cannot rationally compare the two wars in terms of economic impact, global ramifications, loss of life, etc.

My main point as stated in the bottom of my post is that our economic woes must be blamed on the people who continue to insist that we run on a currency that is mainly fueled by debt. The only way out of this recession at the current rate is to inject more Monopoly money into our economy and wish the problems away.

If only it were that easy.

I've really been praying about world issues over the past few weeks, and it's not in me to do that normally. But I've heard God speak to me and He has been telling me that no matter what happens in the world around me, He never changes and that's what we all need to keep our eyes on.

[Jamais Vu]

Yea Chris, you need to conform your personal opinions about Iraq and the war on what OTHER PEOPLE tell you on the internet, and NOT on your own personal experiences in life. You are too young to form your own viewpoints, duh??

I know of several people who went to iraq, and of one guy who is currently over there right now who feel the way you do. And im sure you know more as well. Kudos for free thinking.

[one love]

Yea Chris, you need to conform your personal opinions about Iraq and the war on what OTHER PEOPLE tell you on the internet, and NOT on your own personal experiences in life. You are too young to form your own viewpoints, duh??

I know of several people who went to iraq, and of one guy who is currently over there right now who feel the way you do. And im sure you know more as well. Kudos for free thinking.

totally out of context. It is not that his opinion does not count or that he did not see that it is you cant say that is how it is. Sure some do not want us there. But guess what there are more stories of good things happening. I can no more say they want us there then you can they dont. But to paint any picture as a majority is what is incorrect from most the people I talk to and I also live in the heart of our navy/military... So Im sure both are correct but we must not act as if that opinion is the majority because from what it seems it is not, unless you poll the nation we dont know. I do know many are living bettet then they used to. Many are dead and many hate us, it is a very hard thing to decifer.
May God Bless alll that have served, in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

[Brian]

Can I make a plea to those on both sides of the issue who are invoking war time economics in Iraq and comparing it to World War II?

PLEASE STOP!

I challenge anyone who dares to compare the "War on Terror" to World War II on the economic front to sign up for military service, spend a good chunk of your life in Iraq, study what's going on, then come home, sit down and realize that our good hard earned money is being spent on babysitting a people of whom the vast majority do not want, do not appreciate and do not need our help.

World War II was completely different. The free, and for the most part, oppressed world was unified in the view that the Axis powers were trying to conquer the world and needed to be stopped. The help that was given in that war was received with appreciation and gratitude. People looked to the United States as their saviors.

Nowadays it is such a different story, for many different reasons that we are all too aware of.

Changing gears now...

It is true that there is more to the economy than who is in the White House. People have been screaming for years, even during economic booms, that our money is based on a flawed system. Look back to the days of President Wilson to see when it all started...it's been building for years ever since we eliminated the gold standard.

Just grab a dollar bill and look at it...it says "Federal Reserve Note." In 1933 Congress passed HJR-192 (read more about that here). So what is our currency based on?

Think about this...all the United States money is owed to the Federal Reserve Bank. A privately owned bank, at that. The fact that the US owed the FRB money it didn't have prompted it to come up with a whole new financial system which has devalued the current dollar to a fraction of what it was worth at the turn of the 20th century.

Which means one thing...our currency is based on debt. Really scary if you think about the fact those greenbacks you give Wal-Qaeda for your bottled water don't mean squat. Technically you don't even own the house you bought with your hard-earned "money."

So if you want to blame our economic woes on someone, trace it to its source, Congress in 1933...and the ultimate transgressor, the Federal Reserve Bank. Those morons cutting our interest rates are solely responsible for the devaluation of our dollar, which really wasn't worth much in the first place.

Hey Chris, this is gonna be somewhat tongue in cheek, kinda, but not really.

I really couldn't care less about what or where my money comes from or is backed by. If the government ie:FRB starts issueing these
as long as I could buy gas, food, pay my rent , and the rare night out to eat with the family then I say bring it on!!! I'll stack my wallet FULL of the Orange $500's

Honestly though, it may be a bit like burring my head in the sand but ya know what, if it pays the bills and keeps a roof over my families head and food in there bellies I couldn't care less!

[EagerBeaver]

in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

Got that right. I was stationed at Langley AFB from 04-06 and regularly traveled to Oceana.

What part of VAB you live in?

[one love]

in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

Got that right. I was stationed at Langley AFB from 04-06 and regularly traveled to Oceana.

What part of VAB you live in?

I have lived in what they call "downtown now" pembroke, then off of va beach blvd across oceana base. All over Va beach even 1 a mile from the ocaenfront. I know live near the courthouses and 3 miles from the beach, the back side of our home is not far from oceana they fly over all day. Which is off holland rd. if you know that area.

I grew up in indain lakes that is where i was in so much trouble

[one love]

in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

Got that right. I was stationed at Langley AFB from 04-06 and regularly traveled to Oceana.

What part of VAB you live in?

you are now really alright in my book

[EagerBeaver]

in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

Got that right. I was stationed at Langley AFB from 04-06 and regularly traveled to Oceana.

What part of VAB you live in?

you are now really alright in my book

Hee hee!

I remember a bunch of friends from NN/Hampton would always pile in my car, we would go to the McArthur Center for the better part of an afternoon then go eat, then we'd go hang out in VA Beach and stop at Mt. Trashmore along the way. I kinda miss it over there.

[Jamais Vu]

Y
totally out of context. It is not that his opinion does not count or that he did not see that it is you cant say that is how it is. Sure some do not want us there. But guess what there are more stories of good things happening. I can no more say they want us there then you can they dont. But to paint any picture as a majority is what is incorrect from most the people I talk to and I also live in the heart of our navy/military... So Im sure both are correct but we must not act as if that opinion is the majority because from what it seems it is not, unless you poll the nation we dont know. I do know many are living bettet then they used to. Many are dead and many hate us, it is a very hard thing to decifer.
May God Bless alll that have served, in Virginia Beach we love jet noise

can you please explain how i am out of context? chris gave an account and his view point on the war in iraq. i know a few people who share that viewpoint, and that is all i stated.

the picture you painted in your mind was from YOUR OWN paint brush and not mine. i was talking to chris, and telling him "hey i know a few guys who went through the same thing you have, and feel the same way too"...that is all, no hidden extreme blue state propaganda.

your post actually contradicts what you are saying....."its not fair for the side i dont agree with to imply that they are in the majority, but most of the people i talk to agree with me so you are wrong. oh and btw i live near a naval base!" haha

[one love]

Yea Chris, you need to conform your personal opinions about Iraq and the war on what OTHER PEOPLE tell you on the internet, and NOT on your own personal experiences in life. You are too young to form your own viewpoints, duh??

I know of several people who went to iraq, and of one guy who is currently over there right now who feel the way you do. And im sure you know more as well. Kudos for free thinking.

point being that you may have heard bad things and I have as well, I have heard much more good things, can I make a case either way NO. But nobody silenced him or said he was wrong. My point of where I live is that it is the heart of our area, we have over 20 miltary bases whether navy, army,airforce etc. so we hear many stories. OUr cousin went to Iraq....In the blackhawks. meant no disrespect