another stimulus check thread... instead of buying gas...

[Mike Vande]

costs more than the check was for...

Did you already get your check?

[TW]

I think that it's germane to the conversation to point out that legally bikes are considered to be part of vehicular traffic. Legally they are to be ridden on the roadway, not on the sidewalks. They are to be ridden with the traffic flow, obeying all the laws and ordinances governing vehicular traffic. Some areas have established "Bike Lanes," or even "Bike Paths," however lacking these bikes are to be used in the same manner as any other vehicle.


TW

[RamboPreacher]

costs more than the check was for...

Did you already get your check?

no, it was direct deposit (and yes, I use turbotax, but I pay for it up front, not as a deduction from the refund).

I think that it's germane to the conversation to point out that legally bikes are considered to be part of vehicular traffic. Legally they are to be ridden on the roadway, not on the sidewalks. They are to be ridden with the traffic flow, obeying all the laws and ordinances governing vehicular traffic. Some areas have established "Bike Lanes," or even "Bike Paths," however lacking these bikes are to be used in the same manner as any other vehicle.


TW

yup, and yup!
in fact, I had tried to contact the local DOT to be sure there wasn't anything special I needed to do. left two messages and two emails - no response. I would think this to be a recent growing trend. Oh well.

I plan on having two headlights, and two flashing tail lights that have turn signals too. but nothing about special licensing or anything at least so far that I have found.

[Pastor Bill]

I think that it's germane to the conversation to point out that legally bikes are considered to be part of vehicular traffic. Legally they are to be ridden on the roadway, not on the sidewalks. They are to be ridden with the traffic flow, obeying all the laws and ordinances governing vehicular traffic. Some areas have established "Bike Lanes," or even "Bike Paths," however lacking these bikes are to be used in the same manner as any other vehicle.


TW

Actually TW, I believe that depends on local laws, in some areas bikes are not allowed on public roadways and are confined to sidewalks, it depends on local laws. Or at least that's how it was the last time I looked into it. (but that was awhile ago, it is possible things have changed)

[TW]

Pastor Bill,
I have not done a state by state study, however, in the multiple searches that I have done, in general there is wording similar to this from the Georiga Governor's Office of Highway Safety.

In Georgia, as in most states, the bicycle is legally a "vehicle". This classification means that general vehicular traffic law applies to the operation of a bicycle. However the vehicular code and various regulations include many specific qualifications for specific classes of vehicles. Wherever the code or regulation uses the phrase "vehicle" that section applies to all vehicles, including bicycles. When the term "motor vehicle" is used, that portion does not apply to bicycles.

While local laws may restrict the usage of bicycles further, in general they are considered to be vehicles, to be used upon the roadway. Sidewalks are for pedestrian traffic, thus the name "sidewalk."

There appears to be more diversity in the bicycle helmet laws from state to state than in how to classify bicycles, and where they can and can't be used.


TW

[Pastor Bill]

like I said, my info may be out of date, as it has been awhile since I researched it, but at that time many small towns restricted bicycles to the sidewalks, and off main roadways, the issues are very different from small town to city, also of course differing by age as well. My understanding was when traveling on a roadway, bicycles are required to obey all traffic laws just as any other vehicle, but in some communities, they are restricted from using main roadways, and confined to sidewalks and other paths.

[MacUser]

Sorry to be a safety bummer here..

BUT The very nature of this vehicle is to "ideally" merge into the public roads and automobile traffic. At a busy intersection or crossing a busy area.. you face utterly horrific chances of survival akin to letting people shoot high powered rifles next to you as you walk.

When I drove my motorcycle for several years.. as fun as it was.. it was difficult enough driving as if I were invisible to the people next to me and large trucks just didn't see me on several occasions (near misses) and not to mention the low intellect people that WILL harass you on the public roads. The bonus was my motorcycle was overpowered and fully capable of swift and rapid movements or lane changes to safety etc... unlike a HPV.

If the goal is to ride in the park, bike trails, circular tracks.. wonderful exercise... but the minute you decide to merge onto the public roads - you become a danger to yourself and others around you. This goes for bicycles, atvs, golf carts, lawn mowers, tractors, horses etc, etc.

[RamboPreacher]

Sorry to be a safety bummer here..

fully understand your heart - no problem by me, and most definably not a bummer.

BUT The very nature of this vehicle is to "ideally" merge into the public roads and automobile traffic. At a busy intersection or crossing a busy area.. you face utterly horrific chances of survival akin to letting people shoot high powered rifles next to you as you walk.

of course that assumes there are busy intersections; or crossings. I realize the risk, but in our case, that risk potential is minimal.

When I drove my motorcycle for several years.. as fun as it was.. it was difficult enough driving as if I were invisible to the people next to me and large trucks just didn't see me on several occasions (near misses) and not to mention the low intellect people that WILL harass you on the public roads. The bonus was my motorcycle was overpowered and fully capable of swift and rapid movements or lane changes to safety etc... unlike a HPV.

were you in the motorcycle lanes, and is your state internationally known for Bike (Bicycle, in my case) riders? (RAGBRAI)

If the goal is to ride in the park, bike trails, circular tracks.. wonderful exercise... but the minute you decide to merge onto the public roads - you become a danger to yourself and others around you. This goes for bicycles, atvs, golf carts, lawn mowers, tractors, horses etc, etc.

Thanks for the warnings, but for me, in the town we live (that has bicycle events several times a year where the drivers are all very much aware of bicycle riders, even if there is actual traffic).

By the way, we have lots of bicycle trails all across the state, many of which have long lengths of bicycle lanes in the street. I am sure that where you live and in other area's it can be a hazard, but I think that there is kind of an exception here, with all the specific bicycle circumstances.

oh and turns out the model we are actually getting is more like this one: