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The Gerald survey

Postby Pastor Gary » May 30th, 2008, 6:38 pm

As of today, 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG --- even though they don't all agree with his approach or methods.

Any surprises there?
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Postby Sherry » May 30th, 2008, 6:43 pm

No, not at all. Just most people aren't as bold to say what they feel as Gerald is in a forum like this. They are afraid who might read it and what they might think about them when they do. Gerald, I believe could care less. I respect that.

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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby paul » May 30th, 2008, 6:49 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:As of today, 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG --- even though they don't all agree with his approach or methods.

Any surprises there?


sad that 39% of that 70 % is negated. meaning it cancells itself out.
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby Pastor Gary » May 30th, 2008, 7:55 pm

paul wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:As of today, 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG --- even though they don't all agree with his approach or methods.

Any surprises there?


sad that 39% of that 70 % is negated. meaning it cancells itself out.


Paul, that denies the key point: ignore the fact that it is about Gerald, and ignore the fact that his methods and "bedside manner" bother people -- 70% of them still agree that the things that concern him, also concern THEM. As Yellowrose stated "...most people aren't as bold to say what they feel as Gerald is in a forum like this. They are afraid who might read it and what they might think about them when they do."
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby THE RAzEr » May 31st, 2008, 4:42 am

Pastor Gary wrote:
paul wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:As of today, 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG --- even though they don't all agree with his approach or methods.

Any surprises there?


sad that 39% of that 70 % is negated. meaning it cancells itself out.


Paul, that denies the key point: ignore the fact that it is about Gerald, and ignore the fact that his methods and "bedside manner" bother people -- 70% of them still agree that the things that concern him, also concern THEM. As Yellowrose stated "...most people aren't as bold to say what they feel as Gerald is in a forum like this. They are afraid who might read it and what they might think about them when they do."


In this poll, as in many, the KEY POINT is in the mind of the peron reading the statistics.

Pastor Gary you write:
"As of tody 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG--even though they don't ageree with his approach or methods.

Any surprise there?"

I will use the same words to express my view that you use to express yours:

As of today 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more right than wrong--even though they DON"T AGREE with his APPROACH or METHODS!

Any surprises there?



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This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.

So, no suprises here!

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Postby Full Quiver » May 31st, 2008, 7:58 am

I think the point is that most who participated in the survey also agree that these men are false prophets and not of Christ and as of right now only 9 of those polled think otherwise.
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby Pastor Gary » May 31st, 2008, 10:09 am

THE RAzEr wrote:Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.


And that, friend, was the point of the survey! Gerald has some valid things to say, things with which others often AGREE, but his lack of tact, inability to disagree with diplomacy and engage in civil dialog causes people to oppose him and not take his POSITIONS seriously.

Everyone says they want Gerald to play nicer. Me too. Showing him some facts about how to temper his approach to better present his message couldn't hurt. :wink:
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby DaJudge » May 31st, 2008, 11:01 am

THE RAzEr wrote:
Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.



No, I don't think that is what Paul and Jennifer are saying. They seem to be trying to prop up this false prophet Bentley.

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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby pastorables » May 31st, 2008, 6:04 pm

DaJudge wrote:
THE RAzEr wrote:
Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.



No, I don't think that is what Paul and Jennifer are saying. They seem to be trying to prop up this false prophet Bentley.


I will speak for Paul and Jennifer here and they can correct me later if I'm wrong. The is absolutely NOT what they are saying. :D
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby THE RAzEr » May 31st, 2008, 6:11 pm

DaJudge wrote:
THE RAzEr wrote:
Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.



No, I don't think that is what Paul and Jennifer are saying. They seem to be trying to prop up this false prophet Bentley.


I disagree with you on this one.
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby THE RAzEr » May 31st, 2008, 6:15 pm

pastorables wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
THE RAzEr wrote:
Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.



No, I don't think that is what Paul and Jennifer are saying. They seem to be trying to prop up this false prophet Bentley.


I will speak for Paul and Jennifer here and they can correct me later if I'm wrong. The is absolutely NOT what they are saying. :D


Which is notwhat they said? What I said, or what he said? What are you saying either one of us is saying? Enough said!
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby pastorables » May 31st, 2008, 6:17 pm

THE RAzEr wrote:Which is notwhat they said? What I said, or what he said? What are you saying either one of us is saying? Enough said!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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R U just CUTTIN' up?! :D
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Postby stevenson » June 1st, 2008, 12:28 am

Gerald who make a great radio talk show host! He's got the face for radio! LOL!
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Re: The Gerald survey

Postby Pastor Bill » June 1st, 2008, 9:53 am

THE RAzEr wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:
paul wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:As of today, 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG --- even though they don't all agree with his approach or methods.

Any surprises there?


sad that 39% of that 70 % is negated. meaning it cancells itself out.


Paul, that denies the key point: ignore the fact that it is about Gerald, and ignore the fact that his methods and "bedside manner" bother people -- 70% of them still agree that the things that concern him, also concern THEM. As Yellowrose stated "...most people aren't as bold to say what they feel as Gerald is in a forum like this. They are afraid who might read it and what they might think about them when they do."


In this poll, as in many, the KEY POINT is in the mind of the peron reading the statistics.

Pastor Gary you write:
"As of tody 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more RIGHT than WRONG--even though they don't ageree with his approach or methods.

Any surprise there?"

I will use the same words to express my view that you use to express yours:

As of today 70% of those who have responded agree that Gerald is more right than wrong--even though they DON"T AGREE with his APPROACH or METHODS!

Any surprises there?



Sometimes it is not WHAT is said, but HOW it is said.
This is what Paul has been saying. This is what Jennifer has been saying. It is what I have unsuccessfully have tried to say.

So, no suprises here!

Ray


Sorry Ray, but this is incorrect, not all of the 70% disagree with his methods, and even those that voted that the methods sometimes negate the message aren't all saying that the method is never justified or effective. I voted that myself, but do not agree completely with the way you stated it.
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