PAYING TITHES

[Penny]

Is it important for all Christian's to pay there tithes?

[Dr. Ron]

It is important for EVERYONE to pay their tithes......christian or not.

It is one of the few biblical concepts that does not require salvation to bless.

[Penny]

It is important for EVERYONE to pay their tithes......christian or not.

It is one of the few biblical concepts that does not require salvation to bless.

WOW! Dr Ron...

That was part 2 of my question --

What if the un-christain dose not want to?

``but the wife is saved, she pays her's. But he dose not feel he should.

[RamboPreacher]

It is important for EVERYONE to pay their tithes......christian or not.

It is one of the few biblical concepts that does not require salvation to bless.

agreed.
I am a believer (and teacher) of the gross tithe.

there is no Thou shalt pay tithe command, but it is an important biblical, pre-levitical law, as well as during various timelines of Judaism, as well as NT times teaching.

While I have heard a couple "fringe" "Christians" teach that it is a "sin" to pay tithes, their interpretation of Bible Scriptures leaves MUCH to be desired.

I believe that the tithe is the "foundation" to a giving, Christian lifestyle.

[Dr. Ron]

Penny, you are not responsible for "him" just for you.

He will have to deal with it himself. But if you pay your tithes, watch God bless your money!!!! He will do it!!! Big time!

[Penny]

Penny, you are not responsible for "him" just for you.

He will have to deal with it himself. But if you pay your tithes, watch God bless your money!!!! He will do it!!! Big time!

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

I always thought I was doing the right thing. Paying my thithes on what I made. Even when I sold puppies last year i still payed tithes on that.

BUT

Today I was told I was in the wrong for not taking the effort to pay his tithes.
I told them he dose not go to church, and he choose not to do this.

I was told I should write the check each week to pay his for him? Is that right or wrong I honesty have no clue.

I was told if I did not do this both our money was cursed.

So I came here asking all my friends there thoughts and feelings.

[Dr. Ron]

Do not listen to that ....someone is sadly mistaken.

It would be wonderful if he gave his permission for you to do that....and you might talk to him about it and let him know that you feel it is important for the family....but never go behind his back./

Your money is not going to be cursed .........you just continue to be faithful. And tell the person who is giving you that other advice to email me and we can discuss it.

[PastorDaniel]

I agree that he is accountable. Especially if you get into leadership/accountability issues. You are not accountable for him.

Matter of fact....whoever told you this is asking you to further divide an already spiritually divided household. I would question their motives.

Now I do see where if HE suffers then YOU may suffer too, but this is because ya'll are married and share in each others sorrows.

However, even if you paid tithes on his money, the purpose is defeated because it is not him submitting to the Lord...it is you submitting and being blessed...he would still endure some sorrows even if you paid for him....tithing is part of a PERSONAL relationship....it's like repenting, being baptized, or living the Life...no one can do it for you....its personal....each one of us must seek out our OWN salvation!!

Be encouraged and blessed!!

[Penny]

Matter of fact....whoever told you this is asking you to further divide an already spiritually divided household. I would question their motives.

They were just pointing out this year alone we had so much to go wrong in our house that needed money... We had to buy a new stove(we were all ready planing on getting this with our rebate check), new refrigerator, my car had to be put in the shop again, and all the medical bills form dealing with my son sickness.

He feels all of this is a result of me not paying my husband tithes.

I all ready do so much wrong, but this time I really do not think I am in the wrong. Sometimes I just hate my life.

[PastorDaniel]

Matter of fact....whoever told you this is asking you to further divide an already spiritually divided household. I would question their motives.

They were just pointing out this year alone we had so much to go wrong in our house that needed money... We had to buy a new stove(we were all ready planing on getting this with our rebate check), new refrigerator, my car had to be put in the shop again, and all the medical bills form dealing with my son sickness.

He feels all of this is a result of me not paying my husband tithes.

I all ready do so much wrong, but this time I really do not think I am in the wrong. Sometimes I just hate my life.

Some things are just life...cars break down, appliances tear up, and people get sick....it's all part of living...the key is to focus on the positives.

As long as you are living there is HOPE!!

Take out a piece of paper and entitle it something like...the Positive things in my Life.

Then begin to write down ONLY the positive things. Look for the simple things like...I have a car, some people don't, I got to eat today, some people didn't, and continue it from there including things like God's mercy and salvation.

Then take every chance you get and thank God for the good things that you have in life. I promise you that this will change your whole perspective if you really focus on it.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

God Bless and hang in there!!

[Steve]

Let me preface this by saying that I have ALWAYS paid tithes.

Is the practice of paying tithes to the local church scriptural? I have always heard the "bring the tithes into the storehouse" in Malachi 3, but that is obviously speaking to the Israelites.

I know the CHURCH wants this to continue, and I believe giving is of God, and actually, much more than 10% should be given to God's work. The problem I have is that I see most of this money going to bigger buildings and basketball courts and multimedia hardware. This is helping out (???) the church, but what about the widows and orphans?

I wonder if sending the "tithe" to a missionary agency would be wrong? Can anyone provide scripture otherwise? Maybe me and Gerald could just ban together and send ol' Todd a few bucks!

[Full Quiver]

I know the CHURCH wants this to continue, and I believe giving is of God, and actually, much more than 10% should be given to God's work. The problem I have is that I see most of this money going to bigger buildings and basketball courts and multimedia hardware. This is helping out (???) the church, but what about the widows and orphans?

Amen Steve! Churches, especially some, want to harp on this subject and get real legalistic and say the individual robs God by not paying tithe but for some reason it never crosses their mind that by spending it, the tithe, on whatever they want is more than likely robbing God. I find this to be more in line with what Malachi wrote about.

there is no Thou shalt pay tithe command, but it is an important biblical, pre-levitical law

Pre-Levitical law? Please do share Scripture references.


I think Penny has received great advice and the answer to her questions so I don't think this is a hijack. If so I am sorry Penny!

[PastorDaniel]

Hey Full Quiver,

Are you familiar with the passage about Abraham paying tithes?...I can't remeber to who exactly...but I think that is one passage that Rambo was referring to. That was pre-law. Also, Abel brought of his "firstlings." That is also used to support the pre-law idea of tithe and firstfruits.

Sorry I didn't take the time to point to scripture and verse...but I can if needed. Just thought these quick references made sense to the point.

[Full Quiver]

Abe willingly, no commandment from the Lord, tithed to the King of Salem, Mechezidek. Maybe I am reading RP post wrong but he seems to be saying that it was a LAW.

[PastorDaniel]

Well...I'm not sure about that....(what Rambo was referring to)

Personally, I believe it is a principle that we practice in faith...not law...just like any other Christian practice...it's by faith....and those choices are what we'll be judged on. So I teach it as a principle of the faith...not law.