Pure provocation

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » June 18th, 2008, 6:13 am

This question is to provoke discussion, disagreement, ideas, opinions --- in short, everything including the kitchen sink.

Crazy thought by me:

Could Google be a mechanism of the Antichrist in a futurist view of end-times prophecy?? And, could, truly in your opinion, Obama be the Antichrist??

Google seems now to know all. It will only know more as time goes on, for sure. Story linked on Drudge showed that people are using Google Earth to find homes with pools, and they're basically having trespass pool parties. And, Obama continues to wow 'em with his reading skills to the point of just sheer absurdity; I feel like I'm watching a nation under hypnosis with this guy the more he talks.

So, my knee jerk questions are above. And, restated, is this -- Is the current mixing pot of elements a powerful indicator of prophetic cataclysms, or is it just one more in a string of happenstances that just look like they could be significant if you hold to a futurist end-times view???

one love · Postby **one love** » June 18th, 2008, 6:33 am

Dolfan said:

I feel like I'm watching a nation under hypnosis with this guy the more he talks.

I just want to say I agree 100 percent with this line, no doubt about it people are just amazed at him as if he is some new hope/rock star/ God

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » June 18th, 2008, 7:24 am

My comments definitely fall under the "opinion" category. Here 'tis.

1. "could, truly in your opinion, Obama be the Antichrist??"

No. Possibly a predecessor.

2. " I feel like I'm watching a nation under hypnosis with this guy the more he talks. "

You are.

Obama is old wine in a new wine skin. Stand back and take cover, because when it blows it's gonna stink to high heaven.

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » June 18th, 2008, 7:31 am

one love wrote:Dolfan said:
I feel like I'm watching a nation under hypnosis with this guy the more he talks.

I just want to say I agree 100 percent with this line, no doubt about it people are just amazed at him as if he is some new hope/rock star/ God

I agree. There is definitely something going on there. He scares me. I would rather have Hillary. :shock:

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » June 18th, 2008, 7:40 am

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Paully_44 · Postby **Paully_44** » June 18th, 2008, 9:51 am

dolfan wrote:Could Google be a mechanism of the Antichrist in a futurist view of end-times prophecy?? And, could, truly in your opinion, Obama be the Antichrist??

Google seems now to know all. It will only know more as time goes on, for sure. Story linked on Drudge showed that people are using Google Earth to find homes with pools, and they're basically having trespass pool parties. And, Obama continues to wow 'em with his reading skills to the point of just sheer absurdity; I feel like I'm watching a nation under hypnosis with this guy the more he talks.

just curious, what scares you more with Obama than with McCain other than party affiliation?

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » June 18th, 2008, 11:19 am

I have said before I won't vote for McCain. I stand by that. I also won't vote for Obama, for sure. At this point, my vote will be cast for Bob Barr. I'm tired of voting for people based on pragmatic, results-oriented reasons. Doing that has gotten us all where we are. This time, I'm voting on principle, and the only party expressing the principles I support is the Libertarian Party. No one else even comes close.

And, for those who insist that pragmatism is the way to go, don't be too dismayed. McCain will win Alabama in a cake-walk.

I'm not scared of Obama because I know what he'll try to do. He'll try to raise taxes, regulate individual conduct more, heighten regulations on business, increase the costs of doing business and generally wreak economic havoc and ignore our rights of property. In other words, he'll do what McCain will do, who also ignored our rights of free speech --- along with Pres. Bush --- when McCain-Feingold was passed. I really have no lost love for any of 'em.

I've supported Bush for 1 reason: war on terror. I didn't like him when he got elected the first time and had zero confidence that he'd be able to handle things after 9/11. Well, he did handle that sufficiently well that we've been safe from attack since. He handled it sufficiently poorly that we've sacrificed our rights for protection, and I don't like the new math that Pres. Bush has developed to weigh those rights against the threats. For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was the Real ID Act, which -- mark my words -- will be a bane to all of us in the years to come, especially with a liberal congress and president and court system. So, I respect Pres. Bush, but I have never liked his presidency, to be honest and open about it now. And, I think now is a proper time to say so in this election season; he's leaving office so that cries of criticizing our president in a time of war are really moot now. And, I'm not being militant about opposing him, but I do heartily and deeply disagree on the processes he's started and with the domestic policies he's implemented (spend, spend, spend, grow government and spend some more).

What will Obama do? He'll make every American death in this war in vain if he has his way. He'll tax us to oblivion and create larger, more intrusive government that knows no limit to spending. We called Reagan the "Teflon president" for his ability to withstand and deflect criticism. Obama will go down as the "Plexiglass president" for having only as much substance as his speechwriters will veneer him with on a teleprompter. He may have been on Harvard Law Review, but he is a policy lightweight and he will be so heavily influenced by the guidance of others that he will, himself, do nothing of merit. He will not lead as much as advocate. And, advocates are a dime a dozen; the only thing "special" about this one is the sheen of specialness that is being thrust on him by the electronic media. He will be tested early on, if elected, I believe, with a conflict with a foreign or terrorist power, and I don't think he'll do it right. I fear the consequences of Obama, like $10 gas, and that's where we're going to be in 4 years if this guy gets elected.

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » June 18th, 2008, 11:37 am

He seems to be hypnotic but not to Christians, none that I know, for some reason which is even more strange. Let's put it this way, if he gets shot in the head and survives then he is the man of perdition. Of course Hillary may have hinted to him being shot but I think the thought of survival never crossed her mind. :evil:

For the FBI, Secret Service and any other black suit wearing, tinted window SUV driving govt. peeps, I would never plot, plan, attempt to kill or assassinate anyone nor do I associate with people that would.

one love · Postby **one love** » June 18th, 2008, 11:48 am

WELL FQ has done it we are being monitered :lol:

Maybe they will see Christ in us and get saved :wink:

Just messing with ya

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » June 18th, 2008, 11:50 am

dolfan.

I agree with you on many issues.....not all.

I do agree with your assessment of Obama on every count. To say he is weak in foreign policy is a gross understatement. He is so light weight I doubt if he can tell the difference in a Lt. Col and a General. He certainly has a total disdain for he military (as do most of his ilk) because he never served and has never understood that freedom isn't provided by a glib tounged President.

Speaking of his charisma, I don't get it. He is like slick Willy....he never really says anything. I have yet to hear anything of substance from him. He just walks up with his NBA player gait and smiles and says.....Hi I'm Barack. What is the fuss about? Are all Americans lemmings? I don't think so. I think we will now "force" him to talk beyond the "plexiglass".

I hope the debates will be exactly that......so far we haven't seen a real debate since the Reagan days. Not anything near. We have canned "probes" to elicite the "glib quips". May the best "one liner" guy win!
That is a bunch of horse hocky. Most politicians would not recognize a debate if it hit them in the face.

Will I vote for McCain?? Absolutely ....and especially if he chooses Condi as his vice.......which I see happening easily. Why......foreign policy and military experience. He orchestrated the "surge" that has proven effective. Do I think he was our best choice..........no, but the Rep. party let ourselves get hood winked on that one. Our bad.

Is Obama the anti-christ..........I doubt it but he is "anti-christian."

Postby **Pastor Gary** » June 18th, 2008, 11:56 am

Paully_44 wrote:just curious, what scares you more with Obama than with McCain other than party affiliation?

You mean other than the fact that he is an empty suit socialist -- just short of a communist minus the hammer and sickle -- who openly promotes the confiscation of the fruits of success, the redistribution of wealth (read: taking away the money you earned to give to others who have not earned it) and he has zero clue about foreign policy, and has no core values he is willing to stand by... other than that, he is an attractive man who reads speeches well.

one love · Postby **one love** » June 18th, 2008, 12:18 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:
Paully_44 wrote:just curious, what scares you more with Obama than with McCain other than party affiliation?

You mean other than the fact that he is an empty suit socialist -- just short of a communist minus the hammer and sickle -- who openly promotes the confiscation of the fruits of success, the redistribution of wealth (read: taking away the money you earned to give to others who have not earned it) and he has zero clue about foreign policy, and has no core values he is willing to stand by... other than that, he is an attractive man who reads speeches well.

PG did you just say he was "attractive" hmmmmmmm :shock:

Seriously I do agree with this post he is a socialist to the bone, how people can like him bewilders me yet he gives these martin luther king type speeches but says nothing so people think it sounds so good. They dont realize he did not offer anything :roll:

Postby **Pastor Gary** » June 18th, 2008, 12:43 pm

one love wrote:PG did you just say he was "attractive" hmmmmmmm

Sure. One can be straight as an arrow and recognize that a man is a nice looking guy. :shock:

Can't you tell the difference between ugly men and handsome ones??

One man is ugly, one attractive. Can you guess which is which? :lol:

one love · Postby **one love** » June 18th, 2008, 1:43 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:
one love wrote:PG did you just say he was "attractive" hmmmmmmm

Sure. One can be straight as an arrow and recognize that a man is a nice looking guy.

Can't you tell the difference between ugly men and handsome ones??

One man is ugly, one attractive. Can you guess which is which?

PG I was just kidding with ya I know what you mean.

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » June 18th, 2008, 5:05 pm

I am with Dr. Ron.... I do not care for McCain, but, if he picks Condi as his VP, he wins my vote

KB

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