Gas could fall to $2 if Congress acts..

[EagerBeaver]

If it can't pour into my existing engine and make it run.. it's not going to impact anything. Take a moment and think of all the existing infrastructure.

I personally own a 50 year old car.

Drill, drill, drill. Forget Green.. Go Black. Texas tea! Polar Bear poo.

You're thinking only of yourself here.

Typical Neoconservative worldview.

We will one day RUN OUT of oil, and all the drilling in the world won't be able to make one more drop appear. What will happen then?

And as has been shared, we can drill all we want, but the speculators and oil companies will regulate their own prices. $4 gas is here to stay.

[one love]

If it can't pour into my existing engine and make it run.. it's not going to impact anything. Take a moment and think of all the existing infrastructure.

I personally own a 50 year old car.

Drill, drill, drill. Forget Green.. Go Black. Texas tea! Polar Bear poo.

You're thinking only of yourself here.

Typical Neoconservative worldview.

We will one day RUN OUT of oil, and all the drilling in the world won't be able to make one more drop appear. What will happen then?

And as has been shared, we can drill all we want, but the speculators and oil companies will regulate their own prices. $4 gas is here to stay.

is there any real evidende we will run out of oil? Oh yeah that is impossible because they will not let us drill.

I am for new options though no doubt I wish we could get off of oil so our enemies would go broke but i dont see it. We will destroy ourself as we did russia becasue of politics. Dems will not drill and reps will not go after new technology . can you say depression.

I have always wondered how america would go down and this is it. We are alcoholics that have the answer but they will not let us drill. How crazy is that.

I say Glen Beck for president

[MacUser]

Eager, I'm a realist.

Do you think poor people will be able to go out and afford some new hydrogen vehicle? Come on.. get your head out of the clouds!

It's all about this environmental dung. We have the fuel and resources available.. unleash our Great American companies from these self-fulfilling restrictive bogus political policies so we can get the country back on track.

AND then show me some REAL VIABLE alternatives while we unleash ALL resources to lower and explore the best solution.

[EagerBeaver]

If it can't pour into my existing engine and make it run.. it's not going to impact anything. Take a moment and think of all the existing infrastructure.

I personally own a 50 year old car.

Drill, drill, drill. Forget Green.. Go Black. Texas tea! Polar Bear poo.

You're thinking only of yourself here.

Typical Neoconservative worldview.

We will one day RUN OUT of oil, and all the drilling in the world won't be able to make one more drop appear. What will happen then?

And as has been shared, we can drill all we want, but the speculators and oil companies will regulate their own prices. $4 gas is here to stay.

is there any real evidende we will run out of oil? Oh yeah that is impossible because they will not let us drill.

I am for new options though no doubt I wish we could get off of oil so our enemies would go broke but i dont see it. We will destroy ourself as we did russia becasue of politics. Dems will not drill and reps will not go after new technology . can you say depression.

I have always wondered how america would go down and this is it. We are alcoholics that have the answer but they will not let us drill. How crazy is that.

I say Glen Beck for president

It does not matter whether we drill in America or continue to buy from the Middle Eastern bloc...oil companies and speculators know how to hit us and they are combining to hit us harder than we imagined possible, and it's only going to get worse if we stay dependent on oil.

I fully agree with you One Love...the real alternative to the high price of oil is to bring another energy solution onto the table, then everyone will flock to that...with oil not being in as high a demand the price would level off and come back down to earth to compete.

[SBW]

Eager, I'm a realist.

Do you think poor people will be able to go out and afford some new hydrogen vehicle? Come on.. get your head out of the clouds!

It's all about this environmental dung. We have the fuel and resources available.. unleash our Great American companies from these self-fulfilling restrictive bogus political policies so we can get the country back on track.

AND then show me some REAL VIABLE alternatives while we unleash ALL resources to lower and explore the best solution.

Amen. Grass, soybeans, hydrogen, vegetable oil...won't run my S-10 pickup. I say get with the development of alternatives, but right now I need lower priced gasoline to run on. I'm not exactly poor, but I doubt I will go out and buy an overpriced hydrogen vehicle soon.

[MacUser]

These type of crazy rules and regulations are the very root of the issue.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg

[TW]

Our energy problems are far more complex than "just" the price of gas. These artificially inflated oil prices are having a ripple effect on the entire energy picture. We cannot afford to become so focused on lowering the price of gas that we fail to plan for the future.

The first step is to lower the price for gasoline that the consumer pays. My opinion is that the industry should be regulated with a "cost plus" limit on profits taken by the speculators and oil companies. That would eliminate the artificial inflation in the cost of gas, as we would be paying only the cost of actual production plus a reasonable profit for the producers. The speculators can go back to trying to corner the market on Pork Bellies.

Of equal importance is that we need to re-invent our transportation system. Outside of a few localized areas, mass transportation in the United States is abysmal. We need to develop systems that can move greater numbers of people from the areas that they live in to the areas where they work in a quick and efficient manner. This would help in reducing the cost of energy by cutting into the demand for fuel, fewer cars on the road = less demand. Make better use of our rail system. Update and expand our railroads. Instead of shipping over the road from point to point, ship more by rail. Use commuter trains to move people from the bedroom communities to the business centers, downtown areas and industrial parks, then shuttle buses from train terminals to their work locale.

At the same time encourage the development of all energy sources. We are going to need them eventually, so the intelligent thing to do is develop them now so they will be ready when needed.

Our biggest problem is that we are trying to run our world as if it was still 1960. Our highway and rail system is grossly out of date and cannot be expected to carry the load of this decade. How much fuel is wasted as we sit in gridlock for an hour or so everyday? We must find better ways to move people from where they are to where they need to be.


TW

[EagerBeaver]

Our energy problems are far more complex than "just" the price of gas. These artificially inflated oil prices are having a ripple effect on the entire energy picture. We cannot afford to become so focused on lowering the price of gas that we fail to plan for the future.

The first step is to lower the price for gasoline that the consumer pays. My opinion is that the industry should be regulated with a "cost plus" limit on profits taken by the speculators and oil companies. That would eliminate the artificial inflation in the cost of gas, as we would be paying only the cost of actual production plus a reasonable profit for the producers. The speculators can go back to trying to corner the market on Pork Bellies.

Of equal importance is that we need to re-invent our transportation system. Outside of a few localized areas, mass transportation in the United States is abysmal. We need to develop systems that can move greater numbers of people from the areas that they live in to the areas where they work in a quick and efficient manner. This would help in reducing the cost of energy by cutting into the demand for fuel, fewer cars on the road = less demand. Make better use of our rail system. Update and expand our railroads. Instead of shipping over the road from point to point, ship more by rail. Use commuter trains to move people from the bedroom communities to the business centers, downtown areas and industrial parks, then shuttle buses from train terminals to their work locale.

At the same time encourage the development of all energy sources. We are going to need them eventually, so the intelligent thing to do is develop them now so they will be ready when needed.

Our biggest problem is that we are trying to run our world as if it was still 1960. Our highway and rail system is grossly out of date and cannot be expected to carry the load of this decade. How much fuel is wasted as we sit in gridlock for an hour or so everyday? We must find better ways to move people from where they are to where they need to be.


TW

Amen TW.

[oletimer]

SBW Posted:

MacUser wrote:
Eager, I'm a realist.

Do you think poor people will be able to go out and afford some new hydrogen vehicle? Come on.. get your head out of the clouds!

It's all about this environmental dung. We have the fuel and resources available.. unleash our Great American companies from these self-fulfilling restrictive bogus political policies so we can get the country back on track.

AND then show me some REAL VIABLE alternatives while we unleash ALL resources to lower and explore the best solution.

Amen. Grass, soybeans, hydrogen, vegetable oil...won't run my S-10 pickup. I say get with the development of alternatives, but right now I need lower priced gasoline to run on. I'm not exactly poor, but I doubt I will go out and buy an overpriced hydrogen vehicle soon.

Alternatives can not be from our food source. They have all ready run the price of food and feed up as everybody tries to take the advanage of the market and the cost of fuel to produce it. When it comes down to it, it is not oil that is the problem, rather GREED. Congress is just as much of a probem as their failure to put a stop to this mess. I guess that it is hard to look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't know all the answers, but I know that going into farm areas for a fuel source is like cutting off you legg to save your foot.

[Full Quiver]

America is a capitalist society. When a true, efficient alternative arrives on the market it will be pricey. That's when we will see supply and demand pricing and corporations making a buck. Plenty of J2ers own their own businesses such as Pastorables and Dolfan. They are in business to make a profit (feel free to correct me guys if you aren't). So we don't need to fantasize that we are going to wake up tomorrow and find a company offering an alternative that will be affordable to the majority of us. Good grief, the automotive industry has all but priced itself out of the budgets of many Americans anyhow.