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Postby Full Quiver » June 27th, 2008, 6:14 pm

Dick Morris is to Fox News (Hannity and Colmes especially) as Scott McClennan is to CNN. :fever:
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Postby Linda » June 27th, 2008, 6:16 pm

Hope you get to feeling better! :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Ilovebigcats » June 27th, 2008, 6:28 pm

Prayer is happening. 8)

Kidding...

Who is Dick Morris and Scott McClennan? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously... no clue. Don't watch the junk... I prefer Reality TV. 8)
Pun intended.

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Re: just makes me sick

Postby TC » June 30th, 2008, 4:35 am

Full Quiver wrote:Dick Morris is to Fox News (Hannity and Colmes especially) as Scott McClennan is to CNN. :fever:

I could not disagree with you more; Scott McC was an everyday joe and then got the Press Sec job. No real political experience. Morris has worked for many campaigns both Dem and Rep, he has gotten both elected. (I was thinking Haley Barbor sp? was one). He was a big time advisor to the Clintons and had he not gotten caught up in a sex scandal he might still be one of their advisors. He was a political hatchet man, a political mercenary a political gun for hire. He did not care about his own political beliefs; he did what was best for who ever was paying his bill.

I do agree he is on Fox more now, because he is not welcomed on many of the other channels, because he went against the Dems and the Clintons. Many of the other stations like mavericks as long as they are Gop’s going against their party. Proof of that is McCain is praised for when he goes against his party, yet Joe Lieberman is looked at as a nut when he goes against the Dems. (his former party). Also just look how he was treated when he went against them, they set up a primary challenge and then when their guy won they did all they could to make Joe look bad, when he beat their guy as an Ind they they tried to play nice like it never happened.

While I do not really like Morris much, I do think that he has a lot of political insights that many do not see. He does not color his opinions with his own biases. But what he thinks will happen. What I like about him is he will say. If I were working for A, I would bring up B’s stand or flip flop on this issue or. They need to attack on this issue because they have no real answer to that charge.

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Postby Full Quiver » June 30th, 2008, 12:25 pm

So what your saying is that Morris has integrity because he admits to playing politics for money and McClennan doesn't have integrity for the same. McClennan says he knew things weren't right but yet he was getting paid to say contrary and now that he has said what he has he is a liar and a bad guy. When Morris was in the Clinton admin. he made the Clintons out to be angels and the Saviours of the nation all while drawing a paycheck. Now that he is on the out and spills the beans on them it's perfectly ok in your eyes.

Am I reading you right?
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Postby TC » June 30th, 2008, 1:09 pm

Full Quiver wrote:So what your saying is that Morris has integrity because he admits to playing politics for money and McClennan doesn't have integrity for the same. McClennan says he knew things weren't right but yet he was getting paid to say contrary and now that he has said what he has he is a liar and a bad guy. When Morris was in the Clinton admin. he made the Clintons out to be angels and the Saviours of the nation all while drawing a paycheck. Now that he is on the out and spills the beans on them it's perfectly ok in your eyes.

Am I reading you right?


OK maybe I did not get the thought behind your original post. I Was taking it as you were saying that, scott M is the media darling of the CNN crowd like Morris is the media darling of the Fox crowd (H & C). That both are only on these shows because they turned on their former employers.

I look at Morris as like a defence attorney, it does not matter what he thought about his clients or their position. His job was to do what was best for the guy paying his bills. While Scott M was somewhat the same way Morris was not an out front guy he was a political advisor, His job was to tell the person writing the checks what was the best political move.

I think you would hard pressed to find public comments by Morris that he later came out and said he lied about. (other than is comments about his hooker... If I am correct when it came out he just admitted to it almost from the start)

I see it as Scott has done one thing Press Sec and he admitted he lied when it was profitable (when his book is coming out) striking while the iron is hot before his 15 mins is up. While Morris has a long history of working in the political world. like it or not he has political experience and his view is valuable.

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Postby one love » June 30th, 2008, 1:20 pm

Morris does his job good but he gets on my nerves. Lets just be real he loved the clintons but there was bad blood so he loves to tear them apart which is fine with us because we cant stand them either but that does not give him integrity, I have to agree with FQ :wink:

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Postby TC » June 30th, 2008, 4:15 pm

I don't really see he loved the Clintons as much as he loved the power he had then. I have heard over and over how they did not get along.

Like I said I see Morris at the defence attorney doing anything to get his crook off. It did not matter if they were inocent or not, It did not matter what the facts were it only mattered what was the best political move. Maybe that is why give him more of a pass. His history is he works for who ever pays him. Now that he is no longer a political advisor he gives his thoughts on political issues.

I think Scott is just trying to cash in while the getting is good. To me he also is an attorney but he is the who chases the ambulance waiting for that quick buck

both have integrity issues but Morris has moved beyond slamming his former boss. I don't see any other thing for Scott, he got it out in his one and only book. He only has about 30 seconds left of his 15 with no kind of follow up. He as almost dropped off the face of the earth already.

There is also one other big difference, GW did not turn his back on Scott, the Clintons dropped Morris like he was on fire when he had sexual downfall. They knew that they did not want in the middle of sexual misconduct (that did not involve them) I think that is why he hates them. GW let Scott walk away saying it was to be with family. As bad as he did his job he should have been fired after the first 90 days.

With Dick you knew what you got when you hired him, Scott only got the job because their familes were friends and had worked together.

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Postby Full Quiver » June 30th, 2008, 5:53 pm

but Morris has moved beyond slamming his former boss


Only because for now she has suspend her campaign!
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Postby TC » July 1st, 2008, 2:18 am

Well I am not sure how the last few months has gone but he predicted most of last year that Hill would win the Dems and if it was McCain she would win it all.

what I intended was he is not a one trick pony, he has more than slamming the Clintons. Scott has nothing else. The only thing he has on his resume is Press Sec. and his book about it and I think it was Ghost written for him. The person in the Bush adm that would be like Morris was in the Clinton would be Karl Rove

Yes I am harder on Scott, because I expect more out of republicans, and with Dick you knew what you got to start with a hired gun. Bush considered him a friend and gave him a job and he stabbed Bush in the back. A job that many at the time said he should not have gotten, was not good at and the only reason he got it was George was being nice to family friends.

The real test will be where will scott be in one year, or even 6 months. His career has peaked and now it is all down hill. The sad thing is had he been better at his job and Had he not slammed the Bush Adm he might have had a future as it is, no Dem would hire him because he is a Repub, no Repub will hire him because he has a history of stabbing his friends in the back.

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Postby Full Quiver » July 1st, 2008, 11:30 am

His career has peaked and now it is all down hill.


Says who?

Did Tony Snow's career peek when he left the same job? No, he said he left for MORE money. Working in govt. should never be considered the top of the line.
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Postby soulsearcher » July 1st, 2008, 11:35 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:Prayer is happening. 8)

Kidding...


:lol: :lol: Cats, you crack me up! :lol: :lol:

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Postby TC » July 1st, 2008, 12:40 pm

Full Quiver wrote:
His career has peaked and now it is all down hill.


Says who?

Did Tony Snow's career peek when he left the same job? No, he said he left for MORE money. Working in govt. should never be considered the top of the line.


AH EVERYONE... Where have you seen him over the last few weeks? Scott did local and state politics in TX, all by appointment. His only real govt job was as a general flunkie. He and bush both were blasted when he was hire for being just a bush buddie, that he had no work history or job qualifications for the job. To compare with Tony Snow only proves my points. Tony was a speech writer for years, He work for Quail when he was VP, he has had his own TV show on politics, A sunday morning show that was one of the highest rated. he has written several books on politics, He had his highly successful radio show Can you name 5 things Scott has done. Well He was a Press Sec, and had a ghost book written for him.

Again where is he NOW? now that he has been seen as a political hack he is not even on the "left" news anymore much less of any importance to any political views. the only thing that will chage that is if he comes up with more things he lied about.

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Postby Full Quiver » July 1st, 2008, 1:01 pm

So a man that is 39-40 years old has peeked in his career. Maybe, maybe not but who am I to say. I have not done very much in my life but I sure hold out hope that the best is yet to come. You never know, he might be prez one day. LOL
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Postby TC » July 1st, 2008, 1:38 pm

Full Quiver wrote:So a man that is 39-40 years old has peeked in his career. Maybe, maybe not but who am I to say. I have not done very much in my life but I sure hold out hope that the best is yet to come. You never know, he might be prez one day. LOL


OK admit it you are scott aren't you? if so ok you are still relevant and yes you can get another job...I heard Papa Johns is looking for drivers....

really it is sad to say that yes he has peeked, He better get all he can out of this book because his family is gonna need it. IF he really cared about his future and a future career he would not have walked out on that Island and let the Dems burn his bridges behind him.


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