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Postby oletimer » July 4th, 2008, 2:45 pm

Gerald wrote:
Jesus likes witchcraft when they say HE DIED to promote it, but not when it's dressed in a hat with stars.


?????????? Please explain. :?
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Postby Pastor Gary » July 4th, 2008, 3:42 pm

oletimer wrote:
Gerald wrote:
Jesus likes witchcraft when they say HE DIED to promote it, but not when it's dressed in a hat with stars.


?????????? Please explain. :?

Noooo--- please don't get that discussion started. :lol:
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you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)

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Postby oletimer » July 4th, 2008, 4:45 pm

PG, do you have a prophetic seeing on this? :lol:
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Postby pastorables » July 4th, 2008, 5:38 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:Get you a copy of The Dictionary of Pentecostalism and Charismatics.

Of course, then, someone in Mississipi would have to actually READ A BOOK!!!!!


Ahem, you must be addressing someone else in the room. First of all, I have the book, and secondly, I graduated with a 3.9 GPA. Yeah, I went there! 8) :D

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Postby THE RAzEr » July 4th, 2008, 7:33 pm

pastorables wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:Get you a copy of The Dictionary of Pentecostalism and Charismatics.

Of course, then, someone in Mississipi would have to actually READ A BOOK!!!!!


Ahem, you must be addressing someone else in the room. First of all, I have the book, and secondly, I graduated with a 3.9 GPA. Yeah, I went there! 8) :D

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That's a good GPA! :idea: :idea: Did you read a book though? :lol: :lol:

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Postby pastorables » July 5th, 2008, 3:00 am

THE RAzEr wrote:
pastorables wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:Get you a copy of The Dictionary of Pentecostalism and Charismatics.

Of course, then, someone in Mississipi would have to actually READ A BOOK!!!!!


Ahem, you must be addressing someone else in the room. First of all, I have the book, and secondly, I graduated with a 3.9 GPA. Yeah, I went there! 8) :D

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That's a good GPA! :idea: :idea: Did you read a book though? :lol: :lol:

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Maybe this one? :lol:


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Postby Full Quiver » July 5th, 2008, 6:07 am

Jesus likes witchcraft when they say HE DIED to promote it, but not when it's dressed in a hat with stars.


Good point Gerald!
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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 5th, 2008, 7:45 am

Full Quiver wrote:
Jesus likes witchcraft when they say HE DIED to promote it, but not when it's dressed in a hat with stars.


Good point Gerald!



There is something hilariously idiotic about straining at cartoon symbols, and then calling people who embrace occultic ideas dressed in Christianity as brothers.

Those Occultic ideas have been well documented for anyone of any GPA to understand and WOF leaders make no bones that the ideas they promote WORK EVEN FOR OCCULT PRACTITIONERS...even boasting about it.

Oh but how shrewd and savy...what defenders of our minds we have become.....fearing cartoon hats and entangled in Occult saturated "faith principles".

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Re: One tool

Postby paul » July 5th, 2008, 8:12 am

Pastor Gary wrote:

"To a man who only owns a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."


Where have I been ? I don't ever remember hearing this quote. I LIKE IT !

To the question. I remember the days of Bob Larwson where it seemd we viewd almost everything as somehow associated with paganism. While I do not dismiss the reality of how it is being slipped into many areas, I do not let it control me and what I do.

Living only about 40 minutes from Disney Land ( the real one :lol: ) we find ourselves taking visitors there several times yearly.

I would agree with FQ, the key is raising our children in the right atmosphere and insulating them to the things of the world and not isolating them
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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 5th, 2008, 8:33 am

paul wrote:To the question. I remember the days of Bob Larwson where it seemd we viewd almost everything as somehow associated with paganism. While I do not dismiss the reality of how it is being slipped into many areas, I do not let it control me and what I do.


Indeed?

So you agree that Word of Faith infuses occultic principles?

I mean no less than Benny Hinn says that the WOF principles work for occult practitioners.

Is that seeing pagans under every rock?????

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Postby paul » July 5th, 2008, 9:43 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:
paul wrote:To the question. I remember the days of Bob Larwson where it seemd we viewd almost everything as somehow associated with paganism. While I do not dismiss the reality of how it is being slipped into many areas, I do not let it control me and what I do.


Indeed?

So you agree that Word of Faith infuses occultic principles?

I mean no less than Benny Hinn says that the WOF principles work for occult practitioners.

Is that seeing pagans under every rock?????


I agree with PG that the only tool that some people have in their tool box is a hammer.
That is probably why you broke off the studs on your wheels you used the hammer instead of a lug wrench. Also have you ever heard of wd40. It used for more than just spraying it on your knees for authritus.

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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 5th, 2008, 10:57 am

Trying to control others can also be a form of witchcraft, which is something to think about. Just plain any time our will gets out of line with God's and we give into our own instead of God, that can be rebellion, which is as the sin of witchcraft. But, that isn't what pastorables was talking about.

I think pastorables is saying he has a conviction or concern about the amount of occult symbolism in Disney parks and movies which is understandable.

I think if you have a conviction there are times other people won't understand it, simply because it isn't something they have been convicted about.. not necessarily because either party is wrong, but because God moves on different people with convictions that may be unique for that person or for that time. It may be hard to understand if you were raised with the frame of reference of advice to
BTW we had Disney passes when we lived in Florida and the hat bothered us too. It is at MGM I believe which isn't as family-friendly as some of the other parks anyway. Epcot is my favorite. So if you feel the freedom to go, perhaps you might just avoid that particular park, just an idea!
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Postby Full Quiver » July 5th, 2008, 11:25 am

Living only about 40 minutes from Disney Land ( the real one )


You may have the real Disneyland but you do not have the real Disney World; quite a difference.
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Postby paul » July 5th, 2008, 11:28 am

Full Quiver wrote:
Living only about 40 minutes from Disney Land ( the real one )


You may have the real Disneyland but you do not have the real Disney World; quite a difference.


only in the eys of the beholder. Beside, disney land produced Annette F. Disney World, Britney spear...now their the difference.
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 5th, 2008, 3:59 pm

paul, I used to would have agreed with you...

but, you Californians don't have Epcot! :)
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