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Postby PastorDaniel » July 8th, 2008, 7:57 am

one love wrote:No Brother youn have not, if you dont know you might have just missed a few hundred post :lol: :wink:


And all the better for it!! A couple of mudslingers on here sling it so often that you tend to ignore it I guess :lol:
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 8th, 2008, 11:03 am

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Jennifer Smith wrote:
I have to beg forgiveness here if I judged or hurt anyone in my own bias in the past... I'm not sure what "A View From Brownsville" means, but I do think I was so excited about and defensive of my own experience at Brownsville that I may have made some others feel badly, and I am sorry.


Jennifer,

You stated that some had an agenda. I was just poking fun at all the debates we had on here concerning the Brownsville Revival. "A View From Brownsville" was a play on words to portray a talk show. :lol: No offense or harm intended. :D

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None taken...! I guess it doesn't hurt me to apologize...I was one of the more vocal ones in that particular conversation as strongly as I felt about it... :)
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 8th, 2008, 12:01 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:..........I was so excited about and defensive of my own experience at Brownsville that I may have made some others feel badly, and I am sorry. I think personality and past experience have a lot to do with how we view these things... God likely doesn't judge us in the same way we seem to judge one another based on these differences...at least that is my thought... :)


This is exactly why Pentecostalism is descending into madness: We have given up Bible and sanity in favor of "PERSONAL EXPERIECE".

Ministers can now lie through their teeth, physically assualt you, and make extra Biblical claims and IT'S ALL Good cause "I got a buzz".


I was referring to quite another thing all together, but that's okay. :)
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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 8th, 2008, 12:06 pm

Jennifer Smith wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:..........I was so excited about and defensive of my own experience at Brownsville that I may have made some others feel badly, and I am sorry. I think personality and past experience have a lot to do with how we view these things... God likely doesn't judge us in the same way we seem to judge one another based on these differences...at least that is my thought... :)


This is exactly why Pentecostalism is descending into madness: We have given up Bible and sanity in favor of "PERSONAL EXPERIECE".

Ministers can now lie through their teeth, physically assualt you, and make extra Biblical claims and IT'S ALL Good cause "I got a buzz".


I was referring to quite another thing all together, but that's okay. :)



Yes. You were referring to the last "MIGHTY MOVE OF GOD" which had the preacher issuing false prophecies and threatening the children of anyone that dared criticize him.

Your "feelings and experiences" determine what is and what is not "a mighty move of God" NOT the integrity of scripture.

THAT is whay Pentecostalism is descending into Bedlam and blending inexorably with the occult and blatant heresy.

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Postby RamboPreacher » July 8th, 2008, 12:19 pm

we need to repent, protest and reform. :)
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 8th, 2008, 12:21 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:..........I was so excited about and defensive of my own experience at Brownsville that I may have made some others feel badly, and I am sorry. I think personality and past experience have a lot to do with how we view these things... God likely doesn't judge us in the same way we seem to judge one another based on these differences...at least that is my thought... :)


This is exactly why Pentecostalism is descending into madness: We have given up Bible and sanity in favor of "PERSONAL EXPERIECE".

Ministers can now lie through their teeth, physically assualt you, and make extra Biblical claims and IT'S ALL Good cause "I got a buzz".


I was referring to quite another thing all together, but that's okay. :)



Yes. You were referring to the last "MIGHTY MOVE OF GOD" which had the preacher issuing false prophecies and threatening the children of anyone that dared criticize him.

Your "feelings and experiences" determine what is and what is not "a mighty move of God" NOT the integrity of scripture.

THAT is whay Pentecostalism is descending into Bedlam and blending inexorably with the occult and blatant heresy.


I'm perfectly capable of determining what is biblical. I use the Bible as the standard, which my husband and I both gave due diligence to in our assessment of Brownsville. As far as I'm concerned when it comes to conversing with you about it, it is a closed issue because you can't be reasonable or respect others reaching a different conclusion.

What I was referring to in the post you edited and pasted, is that dolfan appeared to indicate that some pentecostals or self-described "bapticostals" feel that others look at them as not pentecostal or not walking with God in the same way. My post was an apology, and not intended for you to point out an alternate ascribed meaning to. But, again, that's okay. I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow, so you won't have me to kick around anymore for a little while... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 8th, 2008, 12:22 pm

RamboPreacher wrote:we need to repent, protest and reform. :)


I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds good. :)
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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 8th, 2008, 12:27 pm

Jennifer Smith wrote:I'm perfectly capable of determining what is biblical. I use the Bible as the standard...


Indeed.

Jennifer Smith wrote:, which my husband and I both gave due diligence to in our assessment of Brownsville.


Did you consider the lying Prophet. The death threats to children in your assessment?

But that's okay cause ya'll got the shivers, isn't it?



Jennifer Smith wrote:As far as I'm concerned when it comes to conversing with you about it, it is a closed issue because you can't be reasonable or respect others reaching a different conclusion.


I do not respect -in the slightest- people who accept liars, shysters, false prophets and those that threaten children as "men of god"

They are foolish and run after their own desires, seeking spiritual buzzes at the cost of truth. Facilitating Falsness in the place of that truth.

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Postby Jennifer Smith » July 8th, 2008, 1:23 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
Jennifer Smith wrote:I'm perfectly capable of determining what is biblical. I use the Bible as the standard...


Indeed.

Jennifer Smith wrote:, which my husband and I both gave due diligence to in our assessment of Brownsville.


Did you consider the lying Prophet. The death threats to children in your assessment?

But that's okay cause ya'll got the shivers, isn't it?



Jennifer Smith wrote:As far as I'm concerned when it comes to conversing with you about it, it is a closed issue because you can't be reasonable or respect others reaching a different conclusion.


I do not respect -in the slightest- people who accept liars, shysters, false prophets and those that threaten children as "men of god"

They are foolish and run after their own desires, seeking spiritual buzzes at the cost of truth. Facilitating Falsness in the place of that truth.


You have a nice day. Enjoy it, it is summer, and the weather is beautiful, absolutely beautiful! :)
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Postby RamboPreacher » July 8th, 2008, 3:09 pm

Jennifer Smith wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:we need to repent, protest and reform. :)


I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds good. :)
become protestantized re-protestant :)
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Postby Steve » July 8th, 2008, 7:45 pm

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Saying Bam, Bam, Bam is not necessarily a mockery of God if this is what you are referring to? I know nothing of a mocking of tongues as he does claim to be Spirit Filled.


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I am referring to the BLAH, BLAH, BLAH video that has already been posted somewhere on here. It is similar to the BAM, BAM, BAM stuff, but more blatant. I can find the link if you want.

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Postby dolfan » July 9th, 2008, 3:59 am

Jennifer Smith wrote: What I was referring to in the post you edited and pasted, is that dolfan appeared to indicate that some pentecostals or self-described "bapticostals" feel that others look at them as not pentecostal or not walking with God in the same way. My post was an apology ....


Jennifer, I appreciate that but it wasn't necessary. We have very different views and understandings but I don't blame you for being a sort of charismatic snob. So's I don't brush too broadly, let me restate slightly who I meant: those folks who teach, preach and act like anyone who does not believe in/follow/embrace/accept/endorse/allow for Word of Faith/"prophetic movement" teaching/preaching/practice are somehow (A) missing -- through ignorance, unbelief, lack of revelation, whatever --- part of God and His Word and relationship with Him and/or (B) opposed to God, His Word, relationship with Him. It is that kind of mysticism and unaccounted hoopla that, along with what I agree with Gerald is antibiblical doctrine (if it is rightly called "doctrine" at all), are leveraged against the immature and the unbelieving or newly believing by the likes of Bentley.

That's not you, and I don't think it fits anyone who posts here (oh, maybe a very, very few I can think who used to show up here but really don't anymore, but que sera sera). We can save the merits of how much we yield to the WOF types for another day. I just wanted to make clear to you that you don't owe me an apology and I don't feel personally wronged by any of these types I'm describing.
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