Todd Bentley Lies again (proof for even the hardest heads)

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Todd Bentley Lies again (proof for even the hardest heads)

Postby Gerald Creasy » July 9th, 2008, 4:37 am

I have reported before How I have heard Bentley with his own voice tell how he kicked an old woman in the face with his biker boots and punched a Chinese man in the Jaw so hard that teeth flew.

Recently in an interview with the Charlotte Observer HERE

He was asked about this:

Q: I want to ask you about some of the physical things that have happened when you're ministering before large groups. Some of this is on YouTube, like kicking a woman in the nose with biker books. People hear that and it freaks them out. Really, it sounds violent.

A: Sure, let me answer that this way, the best I can. There have been instances throughout the scripture in the Bible of out-of-the-box stuff, like the leper who wanted to be cleansed but was told to dip in the pool seven times. But yet there was clearly a time where Jesus said to a leper, `Be cleansed.' Another time, the Lord healed a blind eye and said `Receive your sight,' but another time He put some spit in a blind man's eye.

Miracles happened in the Bible in many different times and many different ways.

I want to make it clear, there is not one instance I'm aware of where anybody was hurt and, in every instance, they were actually healed. So I want to draw attention to the fruit. But I also want to say this is an operation of the gift of faith.

It's not something we teach our people. Sometimes when you're dealing with a demon spirit, it's done with great force. Also, for me, it's a simple act of wanting to be obedient.

One I want to make clear is I don't actually feel a need to defend myself because the Holy Spirit will defend the gospel. We don't want to be in the revival on the defense because we just want to stay focused on Jesus.



How can you say you hit a man so hard you knocked him back and teeth flew,
and THEN claim no one has ever been hurt?????????????????????

You can not.

He is a liar.

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Re: Todd Bentley Lies again (proof for even the hardest head

Postby EagerBeaver » July 9th, 2008, 4:39 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:I have reported before How I have heard Bentley with his own voice tell how he kicked an old woman in the face with his biker boots and punched a Chinese man in the Jaw so hard that teeth flew.

Recently in an interview with the Charlotte Observer HERE

He was asked about this:

Q: I want to ask you about some of the physical things that have happened when you're ministering before large groups. Some of this is on YouTube, like kicking a woman in the nose with biker books. People hear that and it freaks them out. Really, it sounds violent.

A: Sure, let me answer that this way, the best I can. There have been instances throughout the scripture in the Bible of out-of-the-box stuff, like the leper who wanted to be cleansed but was told to dip in the pool seven times. But yet there was clearly a time where Jesus said to a leper, `Be cleansed.' Another time, the Lord healed a blind eye and said `Receive your sight,' but another time He put some spit in a blind man's eye.

Miracles happened in the Bible in many different times and many different ways.

I want to make it clear, there is not one instance I'm aware of where anybody was hurt and, in every instance, they were actually healed. So I want to draw attention to the fruit. But I also want to say this is an operation of the gift of faith.

It's not something we teach our people. Sometimes when you're dealing with a demon spirit, it's done with great force. Also, for me, it's a simple act of wanting to be obedient.

One I want to make clear is I don't actually feel a need to defend myself because the Holy Spirit will defend the gospel. We don't want to be in the revival on the defense because we just want to stay focused on Jesus.



How can you say you hit a man so hard you knocked him back and teeth flew,
and THEN claim no one has ever been hurt?????????????????????

You can not.

He is a liar.


From what his own words say, it sounds like he is feeling guilty of something..."Let me make clear I have no need to defend myself..."

If he would have led off with that statement, it would have set the tone for the rest of what he had to say. But adding that disclaimer at the end also helps prove he's a crock.
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Postby dolfan » July 9th, 2008, 5:05 am

This quote from the guy whose teeth were knocked out:

"Really, I didn't thee it coming. We were thanthing there praying when all of the thudden, BAM! That'th what he thaid. BAM! I lauthed at him, y'know, becauthe of the guy on the TheeVee. Then, BAM, he hit me and thaid, 'In the name of Jeethuth!" Well, I'll thell you, that'th the lath thing I remember before they picked me up from the floor. It wath a while before the feeling came back thoo my jaw, but my thirt looked like it wath wathed in blood, y'know. Tho, the nexth day I wenth thoo the denthith, and he thaid it'd costh about thoo thouthan dollarth for thoo new front theeth, and I juth don't have that mush money. I'd really feel blethed if Bro. Thodd would pay for my new theeth."



Completely made up by me. :lol:
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Postby Shellie » July 9th, 2008, 5:14 am

dolfan wrote:

"Really, I didn't thee it coming. We were thanthing there praying when all of the thudden, BAM! That'th what he thaid. BAM! I lauthed at him, y'know, becauthe of the guy on the TheeVee. Then, BAM, he hit me and thaid, 'In the name of Jeethuth!" Well, I'll thell you, that'th the lath thing I remember before they picked me up from the floor. It wath a while before the feeling came back thoo my jaw, but my thirt looked like it wath wathed in blood, y'know. Tho, the nexth day I wenth thoo the denthith, and he thaid it'd costh about thoo thouthan dollarth for thoo new front theeth, and I juth don't have that mush money. I'd really feel blethed if Bro. Thodd would pay for my new theeth."


Okay...posts that make you laugh so hard that your ribs hurt should carry an extra disclaimer.
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Postby free » July 9th, 2008, 9:26 am

dolfan wrote:

"Really, I didn't thee it coming. We were thanthing there praying when all of the thudden, BAM! That'th what he thaid. BAM! I lauthed at him, y'know, becauthe of the guy on the TheeVee. Then, BAM, he hit me and thaid, 'In the name of Jeethuth!" Well, I'll thell you, that'th the lath thing I remember before they picked me up from the floor. It wath a while before the feeling came back thoo my jaw, but my thirt looked like it wath wathed in blood, y'know. Tho, the nexth day I wenth thoo the denthith, and he thaid it'd costh about thoo thouthan dollarth for thoo new front theeth, and I juth don't have that mush money. I'd really feel blethed if Bro. Thodd would pay for my new theeth."


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Re: Todd Bentley Lies again (proof for even the hardest head

Postby rough_rider » July 9th, 2008, 9:52 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:
I want to make it clear, there is not one instance I'm aware of where anybody was hurt and, in every instance, they were actually healed.

How can you say you hit a man so hard you knocked him back and teeth flew,
and THEN claim no one has ever been hurt?????????????????????

You can not.

He is a liar.
If the Holy Ghost is involved in the hitting I'm sure the man would not have been hurt. :wink:
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Postby SBW » July 9th, 2008, 9:58 am

dolfan wrote:This quote from the guy whose teeth were knocked out:

"Really, I didn't thee it coming. We were thanthing there praying when all of the thudden, BAM! That'th what he thaid. BAM! I lauthed at him, y'know, becauthe of the guy on the TheeVee. Then, BAM, he hit me and thaid, 'In the name of Jeethuth!" Well, I'll thell you, that'th the lath thing I remember before they picked me up from the floor. It wath a while before the feeling came back thoo my jaw, but my thirt looked like it wath wathed in blood, y'know. Tho, the nexth day I wenth thoo the denthith, and he thaid it'd costh about thoo thouthan dollarth for thoo new front theeth, and I juth don't have that mush money. I'd really feel blethed if Bro. Thodd would pay for my new theeth."



Completely made up by me. :lol:


Hillarious.....made me laugh out loud...and I am at work!
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Postby jessicacook » July 9th, 2008, 10:25 am

I was reading your post to Tim, Dolfan, and we were laughing so hard it took me five minutes to get through that! Hilarious, indeed!
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Postby jessicacook » July 9th, 2008, 10:26 am

That should be nominated as the best post ever on Jude 2!!
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Gerald - give it up

Postby darylscook » July 9th, 2008, 10:26 am

Gerald

If the videos posted on youtube and the like have not created discerment for Todd B's character and motives, NOTHING you say will be able to convince them. Trust me (for me) nothing you have said has been more convincing than watching the mockery and circus.

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Re: Gerald - give it up

Postby DaJudge » July 9th, 2008, 10:46 am

darylscook wrote:Gerald

If the videos posted on youtube and the like have not created discerment for Todd B's character and motives, NOTHING you say will be able to convince them.


Speaking of which, here's a good one. This guy compiles several of Bentley's "greatest hits":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmUJcBBT ... re=related

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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 9th, 2008, 12:08 pm

rough_rider wrote: If the Holy Ghost is involved in the hitting I'm sure the man would not have been hurt. :wink:


The flying teeth defies your conclusion.

Or decides the question of IF the HG was involved.

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Postby Gerald Creasy » July 9th, 2008, 12:10 pm

darylscook wrote:Gerald

If the videos posted on youtube and the like have not created discerment for Todd B's character and motives, NOTHING you say will be able to convince them. Trust me (for me) nothing you have said has been more convincing than watching the mockery and circus.

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2) I have a six year old. Things have to be repeated. Underlined. Emphasized. Reminded. Reinforced.

Why do so many Pentecostals have a six year old's mentality??

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Postby Poimen » July 9th, 2008, 2:16 pm

What leper dipped in a pool seven times?
Naman dipped in the river Jordan seven times.

What miracle or healing was preceded by an otherwise actual violent act of faith in Scripture?
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Re: Todd Bentley Lies again (proof for even the hardest head

Postby rough_rider » July 9th, 2008, 5:20 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
rough_rider wrote: If the Holy Ghost is involved in the hitting I'm sure the man would not have been hurt. :wink:


The flying teeth defies your conclusion.

Or decides the question of IF the HG was involved.

Could of been false teeth to... 8)

BTW, he is suppose to be on nightline tonight... :wink:
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