Harboring any doubts about Obama?

[dolfan]

Well, it should settle it that Hugo Chavez today announces he wants a military alliance with Russia.

Russia military back in the Western Hemisphere? Would Obama really be like JFK?? I think not.

[Dr. Ron]

I have never harbored any doubts about this anti-christian, anti-American, idiot. Those who are being taken in by this "pretender" are as stupid as he is.

John McCain is not my first choice. I am sorry that my man quit. But he did quit. I am left with McCain as my only choice. I have been reading his book...which I highly recommend to you. He may not be quite as bad as he seems.

But Obama..........never in a million years........and not because he is HALF black. I made someone very angry the other day when they said "it is time for American to elect a black man to atone for all our past issues." I replied" the by all means elect a "real " black person. not a half breed. Elect Condi Rice.......now there is a real black woman" I almost got hit.

[Dr. Ron]

Btw, the drawing of likeness to jfk, in my opinion, is not really a great compliment to Obama.

Jfk, was at best , a mediocore President. History has been more than kind to him because he was assinated.

He was totally unprepared to be CIC......even though he was a WW2 hero of sorts. He was not prepared to deal with world politics. His ties to the underworld are legendary and provable. He disgraced the White House by bringing in his w**res, he turned the Cuban crisis into a terrible debacle. Those who were involved (my step dad) found his handling of the crisis laughable from a military stand point. The "bay of pigs" was a joke on him. Then within months started us toward a war that was a quagmire.

His only redeming quality was his stand on "civil right's" and that was more Bobby than John.

I have little respect for JFK and felt that he made a mockery of the presidency in the way he achieved it and what he did with it. So, the inference that Obama is the "new JFK" is probably pretty much on target. He is a glib tongued,decietful, over sold, and over blown, comodity of the extreme left. he will not be elected.

[Pastor Bill]

...he will not be elected.

I hope you're right, but he's got alot of support, and from what I have seen McCain's main support is the "anybody but Obama" crowd which leaves things instable at best. We're liable to see much more "third party" voting, and people just staying home, both of which will only help Obama. On the other hand, Obama has roused communities that have lower voting statistics to vote racially, and will bring in some that haven't typically voted at all.

I don't like it one bit, but I am afraid we may see him elected.

[dolfan]

Are those still your real teeth?!? (Why am I thinking about Todd Bentley? )

The rest of this is for younger folks: If you were born after, say, 1972, chances are you have zero appreciation for the historic shadow that Communism cast over the whole world. By the time the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, if you were not about 21 or more, you probably don't remember why it mattered so much. And you probably don't know why it still matters so much. It was the true beginning of a rapid end to Communist Russia.

Well, a rapid slumber. Communist Russia was the biggest threat to the existence of life on Earth. I maintain it still is, with China. It was during most of your childhoods that the USSR dissolved. You were probably taught in school that it was because of Russia's economic woes and an enlightened view of world peace by Mikhail Gorbachev. The fact is that Russia fell because it had a terribly oppressive communist economy, nothing of any importance in world trade except its weapons to other communist nations, and because it lived on intimidation that, over that vast part of Asia and Europe, it was unable to maintain in the face of an America that would not allow itself to be bullied by Russia. We countered oppression with hope, aggression with strength and resolve, and proved that for every nuclear warhead Russia could build and deploy, we could top it. With no economy, no tax base, no real revenue, they went broke and the people saw through that iron curtain and realized that, with America's leadership, there was hope for a better way of living.

Now, Russia is tired of being the stepchild of world affairs. The introduction of limited capitalism has stoked its coffers some, disputes with nations that used to subserve it (such as Georgia) have rankled its feathers, and our own willingness to condemn powers whom Russia finds friendly (such as Islamic radicals in North Ossetia within Russia and Iran without) have got Russia feeling froggy. Enter Chavez and Venezuelan oil with an offer for a military alliance, which is really "we'll trad you oil for military protection from the USA". (Call that "oil for war", if you will.)

Here's why this matters: This is the restart of not just a cold war, but a hot one. With Obama's pledge to slow down development of combat systems and an elimination of existing nuclear ones, he'll be the absolute lapdog of any aggressive nation seeking to enter our hemisphere. We forced Russia down in 1961 with JFK. With Obama in 2009 or 2010, that won't happen. Our national security is at risk, once again, from Russia, and every would be thug of a tyrant in the world is pulling for him to win because they know, to the person, that it means a weaker American presence. Let the French and Germans and Brits even have the opinions they will of us; our protection of ourselves is on the line. They have all yielded to the influx of Muslim Arabs into their nations such that they can't breathe in a way that offends a Muslim for fear of the consequences. We have to fight that, but we have to protect ourselves against Russia, still. Russia, itself, is both victim (Beslan school massacre) and enabler (Beslan school massacre) of Islamic terror. Where it fits its purposes, it will enable. It fits Russia's purposes to weaken us, divide us. Obama will be the patsy for the bin Ladens and the Marxists in Russia and China.

[Dr. Ron]

Now dolfan, that is a good post .........and I totally agree.

But, Bil, you watch too much tv.

Obama IS causing people to come out alright,,,,,but not necessarily for him. He keeps becoming his own worst nightmare.

He has the ear of the college aged (who haven't a clue)....sorry to offend ...but you don't. But they generally don't vote.....or register....they have too many parties to go to.

The people who elect presidents are in the 50-80 age group.....and they will turn out in force against the idiot of the left.

McCain may not be the best choice .....but he will stand up to the people dolfan was refering to.....and btw, you might just see GW wipe out Iran before he steps down.....he is still the CIC US.

[dolfan]

Two more recent stories today:

1. John Kerry said here ( http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=136513 ) that John McCain's complaints about Obama and Iraq were a "tar baby." He said "tar baby"!!!!! I can't believe that. Well, yeah, I can, but it won't matter. I'm sure he didn't know what he was saying. (Yeah, right.) Ahhhhhh!!! The hypocrisy never ends!!!!!

2. Russia is reportedly considering basing nuke-capable bombers in Cuba. I just NOW read this from Drudge Report. Am I psychic or what?!?

[KBevangelist]

Elect Condi Rice.......now there is a real black woman"

You know I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

I think she would be great!

I pray McCain can pull it out......but I am wondering..........

KB

[Pastor Bill]

Now dolfan, that is a good post .........and I totally agree.

But, Bil, you watch too much tv.

Obama IS causing people to come out alright,,,,,but not necessarily for him. He keeps becoming his own worst nightmare.

He has the ear of the college aged (who haven't a clue)....sorry to offend ...but you don't. But they generally don't vote.....or register....they have too many parties to go to.

The people who elect presidents are in the 50-80 age group.....and they will turn out in force against the idiot of the left.

McCain may not be the best choice .....but he will stand up to the people dolfan was refering to.....and btw, you might just see GW wipe out Iran before he steps down.....he is still the CIC US.

I'd have to disagree with you on that one, I work on a college campus, and I have to say, they vote in droves, alot of activists and campaigns focus on college campuses, and they tend to push toward the Liberals and 3rd parties.

I'd be glad to be proven wrong on this one, but I think there is more chance of it happening than you may realize.

[Dr. Ron]

Bill, those people just make a small minority of the voting bloc.

If you will check the statistics of the voting history of these young people never seem to follow through.....and when they do, they don't make that big of a difference.

Yes, you are on a campus and you see the activity. But when they go apart it doesn't keep the momentum. The stats do not show them as a very consistant group.......they will get excited about the election now, but remember, football season is on the way!

[pastorables]

This picture is said to represent the rising of the "pure anointed one". The sad thing is that this is likely serious and not some joke.

pa

[pastorables]

The rest of this is for younger folks: If you were born after, say, 1972, chances are you have zero appreciation for the historic shadow that Communism cast over the whole world. By the time the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, if you were not about 21 or more, you probably don't remember why it mattered so much. And you probably don't know why it still matters so much. It was the true beginning of a rapid end to Communist Russia.

Well, a rapid slumber. Communist Russia was the biggest threat to the existence of life on Earth. I maintain it still is, with China. It was during most of your childhoods that the USSR dissolved. You were probably taught in school that it was because of Russia's economic woes and an enlightened view of world peace by Mikhail Gorbachev. The fact is that Russia fell because it had a terribly oppressive communist economy, nothing of any importance in world trade except its weapons to other communist nations, and because it lived on intimidation that, over that vast part of Asia and Europe, it was unable to maintain in the face of an America that would not allow itself to be bullied by Russia. We countered oppression with hope, aggression with strength and resolve, and proved that for every nuclear warhead Russia could build and deploy, we could top it. With no economy, no tax base, no real revenue, they went broke and the people saw through that iron curtain and realized that, with America's leadership, there was hope for a better way of living.

Now, Russia is tired of being the stepchild of world affairs. The introduction of limited capitalism has stoked its coffers some, disputes with nations that used to subserve it (such as Georgia) have rankled its feathers, and our own willingness to condemn powers whom Russia finds friendly (such as Islamic radicals in North Ossetia within Russia and Iran without) have got Russia feeling froggy. Enter Chavez and Venezuelan oil with an offer for a military alliance, which is really "we'll trad you oil for military protection from the USA". (Call that "oil for war", if you will.)

Here's why this matters: This is the restart of not just a cold war, but a hot one. With Obama's pledge to slow down development of combat systems and an elimination of existing nuclear ones, he'll be the absolute lapdog of any aggressive nation seeking to enter our hemisphere. We forced Russia down in 1961 with JFK. With Obama in 2009 or 2010, that won't happen. Our national security is at risk, once again, from Russia, and every would be thug of a tyrant in the world is pulling for him to win because they know, to the person, that it means a weaker American presence. Let the French and Germans and Brits even have the opinions they will of us; our protection of ourselves is on the line. They have all yielded to the influx of Muslim Arabs into their nations such that they can't breathe in a way that offends a Muslim for fear of the consequences. We have to fight that, but we have to protect ourselves against Russia, still. Russia, itself, is both victim (Beslan school massacre) and enabler (Beslan school massacre) of Islamic terror. Where it fits its purposes, it will enable. It fits Russia's purposes to weaken us, divide us. Obama will be the patsy for the bin Ladens and the Marxists in Russia and China.

Good read. Can I use this? Should I give proper credit to dolfan or Tim?

[dolfan]

Ronald Reagan!!!

[soulsearcher]

McCain-Rice. That would do it for me.

[dolfan]

You can't follow this stuff day by day and make sense out of the big picture with hourly or daily developments.

BUT .... ..... news is that Iran is set to receive S-300 missles from Russia within weeks, deployable within 6-12 months. That coincides well with an Obama inauguration, and the story itself dovetails too closely for my comfort with Russia's protests about the European missile shield over our invitation to join us to protect Europe against Iran.

On Monday, it is reported, our naval forces joined the UK and France in maneuvers designed to show Iran that the 2-week window given them by Sec. Rice to respond to our demands that they declare a slowdown/cessation of nuclear development is a serious window. The maneuvers are said to be a practice run for a naval blockade of Iranian ports to keep refined oil from coming back into Iran.

So, here we have Russia and Iran on one side, the U.S. and NATO on the other in a situation that's boiling up. Obama won't do anything, so if it is to be done, it'll have to happen before 1/20/09. I don't believe Bush will do anything until after the election, if at all. Now, Obama flip flops and says Iran with atomic weapons would be a grave threat.

Here's his history on that:

MAY 18: "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us. .... Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. I mean, if Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.

MAY 20: "Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the regions and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust."

Today/Yesterday, he again calls them a "grave threat". He also said in Jordan, a flub, that "Israel is a friend of Israel's." Okay, that was too easy pickins'.

Right now, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela and Russia are all threats to us, particularly if Russia puts bombers (or tries to) into Cuba.

How badly wrong can this man be and still be elected President? We'll soon find out, I fear.