Kenneth Copeland in the news

deb · Postby **deb** » July 30th, 2008, 3:35 am

Thanks, Gerald.

And Shellie, I'll take your comment as a side note :lol:

paul · Postby **paul** » July 30th, 2008, 3:43 am

Deb

I responded to your posted quote from the reporter.......and simply gave my reply to the accusations made, and gave my commentary on what the reporter stated.

And added some information that I personally know of concerning funds given out by this ministry.

Now I am said to be self-righteous and accusing. :?:

panhandler · Postby **panhandler** » July 30th, 2008, 3:57 am

paul wrote:Deb

I responded to your posted quote from the reporter.......and simply gave my reply to the accusations made, and gave my commentary on what the reporter stated.

And added some information that I personally know of concerning funds given out by this ministry.

Now I am said to be self-righteous and accusing.

Paul. Don't let this bug you. Deb can't answer as to why she posted it and Gerald has obviously taken it upon himself to judge who is righteous and who is self-righteous anyway.

As Elwood matthews used to say "Shake it off".

Got any dirt on him, Gerald?

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » July 30th, 2008, 4:09 am

Copelands teaching is so demented if it can't be accused, nothing can.

But what about his doo-wop? :lol:

That's the story in this thing, the doo-wop, man.

one love · Postby **one love** » July 30th, 2008, 5:52 am

Ok I am offended that you are all so offended at DEB, get off her back!!! First she lives in the greatest state in the country "Virginia" :lol:

Seriously I have heard some really hard stuff on this forum that has made me drop my mouth many times, thinking how could someone post that on a christian forum...

Now Deb Post a article and you are jumping on her??????? Why, it is news...is he not under senate investigation? I never , I mean NEVER ONCE heard her say anything negative at all.

Deb I am sorry , but I think some should apologize ........Some say things that should never be spoken by a christian and that is ok, yet she post a article and people get upset........ :shock:

Gerald Creasy · Postby **Gerald Creasy** » July 30th, 2008, 6:09 am

panhandler wrote:Paul. Don't let this bug you. Deb can't answer as to why she posted it and Gerald has obviously taken it upon himself to judge who is righteous and who is self-righteous anyway.

As Elwood matthews used to say "Shake it off".

Got any dirt on him, Gerald?

Since you have addressed me I shall ask you:

Do you believe God is a man?
Copeland does.

Do you believe God is the biggest failure in creation?
Copeland does

Do you believe Jesus was raped by Roman soldiers?
Copeland does.

Do you believe all you have to do is speak it and it'll be done?
Copeland does.

Crack all you want about dirt; Copeland teaches serious doctrine of devils and y'all swallow it like fat pigs and then whine when someone points out how demonicly demented it is.

Copeland is no Brother.

He elevates Man to God with the power of the carnal tounge;
and denigrates God to man with his own lunacy.

panhandler · Postby **panhandler** » July 30th, 2008, 6:31 am

Here is my original post in this thread:
Deb,

I have a question for you. If I know you, I do not know at this moment who you are so please be honest. To what end did you publish this on this forum?

Are you crying out for prayer for a fellow brother in Christ who is being persecuted? Are you happy that a charleton is getting his due? Are you trying to give Gerald an anurism?

Does this edify or tear down?

Motives, please.

One Love and Gerald please tell me where I "jumped on" Deb, and agreed with Copeland.

Pianoman · Postby **Pianoman** » July 30th, 2008, 8:52 am

panhandler wrote:One Love and Gerald please tell me where I "jumped on" Deb, and agreed with Copeland.

I think you missed One Love's point - not so much the
Copeland issue as that it seems you singled Deb out
from everyone else and all she did was found an article very
similar to others that have been posted in recent weeks
and she posted the link (or at least when I read your post - it
seemed you singled her out in an almost accusatory/defensive
tone).

If that were the intent - a PM would have been more appropriate
(and more Biblical).

If you were sincerely interested in her opinion on the article -
a simple, "Hey Deb - what's your take on this article - what are
your thoughts on Copeland " would have been sufficient.

Unfortunately - one of those down sides of a forum is misinterpreting
the poster's tone.

one love · Postby **one love** » July 30th, 2008, 10:00 am

double post sorry :wink:

one love · Postby **one love** » July 30th, 2008, 10:00 am

Pianoman wrote:
panhandler wrote:One Love and Gerald please tell me where I "jumped on" Deb, and agreed with Copeland.

I think you missed One Love's point - not so much the
Copeland issue as that it seems you singled Deb out
from everyone else and all she did was found an article very
similar to others that have been posted in recent weeks
and she posted the link (or at least when I read your post - it
seemed you singled her out in an almost accusatory/defensive
tone).

If that were the intent - a PM would have been more appropriate
(and more Biblical).

If you were sincerely interested in her opinion on the article -
a simple, "Hey Deb - what's your take on this article - what are
your thoughts on Copeland " would have been sufficient.

Unfortunately - one of those down sides of a forum is misinterpreting
the poster's tone.

Panhandler I would respond but this does sum it up, that is exactly what i was trying to say. I did not mean to upset anyone

panhandler · Postby **panhandler** » July 30th, 2008, 10:45 am

I guess "tone" is what is missing here. I have never sent Copeland a dime, I have never had a discussion with Deb, that I know of. I simply wonder what makes people post these things on a forum.

Is it to provoke discussion (I think this one has been beat to death but here we go again) or to continue the deliberate attempts to destroy a "ministry" that you do not agree with. Is it to stir the pot?

I am not picking on Deb. Again, I do not know Deb. I am simply asking. Should I feel accused now or can only the ones against those outside their immediate sphere get that privilege.

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » July 30th, 2008, 11:21 am

Wow, this kinda makes my little "slur" look very anemic!!! :lol:

I'm glad all I did was use too unoffensive words together to create a very offensive statement.

deb · Postby **deb** » July 30th, 2008, 12:17 pm

Thank you for your post pianoman - I was thinking the same thing.
In person, the conversations would not end up the same.

Panhandler,
I answered you on page 1 - you just chose not to believe me.

panhandler · Postby **panhandler** » July 30th, 2008, 5:15 pm

deb wrote:Thank you for your post pianoman - I was thinking the same thing.
In person, the conversations would not end up the same.

Panhandler,
I answered you on page 1 - you just chose not to believe me.

Okay Deb,

I get now that you posted it for Gerald. Sorry I didn't understand before. I was not trying to correct you just find out why. Blessings!

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » July 31st, 2008, 12:09 am

The absent regard and total lack of confidence I have for the Copeland ministry empire makes this hard to say, but let's remember that these are mere allegations and opinions from a hostile source, using figures from an unspecified accounting firm they hired. They say the THINK something must be wrong in there somewhere because of all the relatives in the business end of the ministry, and all the money sloshing around. Nothing has been proven. There will be plenty of time to rend garments and cry over another nail in the Hand of Jesus from a televangelist if any of the allegations turn out to be true, but so far, nothing has been proven. Let's try to remember that before we start howling for anyone's blood...

Jude 2