TCOG Assembly Webcast

[DaJudge]

Master Chief, get thee hence.

Classic.

[DaJudge]

This type of preaching accounts for the vast majority of the type of preaching I heard growing up: It's the last days (thirty years ago even)

Ain't that the truth. I remember sitting in the Assembly in the 70's at the Keith Street tabernacle and some guy talking about wars and rumors of wars and showing pictures of Soviet tanks on those old slide show projector screens on the walls. He scared the mess out of me. The Lord was coming back in just a few years even then.

Probably was the same way in the 30's and 50's.

[PastorDaniel]

Ok...first I love the responses off of one sermon ..... To say there were no uplifting messages, would indicate someone missed a lot of the assembly.

Pastor Rob is one of the nicest people you would ever meet. He has also dedicated his work to the mission fields. He is a wonderful man of God. Whether one agrees with that message or not, to call it satanic is judging in itself, yet you accuse and rebuke him for the same....

There were many saved through this assembly , many sanctified and filled with the Holy ghost. Rob has a certain preaching style but to critize in this manner would be the same as me saying that somone who preaches in a quiet tone has no power behind it. Of course that is not true.

As far as the music , yes we have a bluegrass band, so what? We also have southern gospel and contempary music that was played in the assembly, it was a wide varitey of different styles. The link i just listened to I will say the music did not sound like that live, I am not sure why it came across as if they were hoarse but they were not. Matter of fact it was my wife and inlaws that sang in some of the assembly and I am sure many could vouch that they are very good singers. I was there live and it sounded really good.

I have not heard all these responses on the other messages, so many were great but you may disagree with this one and that gives the green light I guess.
You would have to know Brother Rob. I am amazed that any one can say he seemed demonic, if you only knew him and his ministry.

I understand if you dont agree with his quick statements of video stores, or violent video games but how many parents want their children playing these violent video games? That was his point....

Love ya all May the lord bless you.....

BTW did you watch all the mission videos of Pastor Rob??????? and the work he does........

Just to clarify....I chose demonic as a descriptive term of his screaming...not him as a person....I found it ironic that he would call "Christian" music "non-Christian" because it was "hard driving and aggressive" when his style of preaching is the very same.....

I do not think he is Satanic...so please don't misunderstand what I wrote...I just strongly disagree that "Christian music" could be "non-Christian" simply because it is "Hard Driving and Aggressive" when the preacher himself is preaching "Hard Driving and Aggressive!!"

I want to repeat...I did NOT call HIM demonic...I said that his scream was "demonic sounding" reread the post without offense...

I consider you an online friend Onelove and think you simply misunderstood the terminology.

[Ilovebigcats]

If you talk to your own teens like that as parents what you will find is rebellious runaways... and it is your own fault for not knowing how to parent and be a loving nurturing teacher. Hello?

How many teenage children do you have?

I personally have one but I work with many teens at church and the Rock House. Why you ask?

[Ilovebigcats]

Ok...first I love the responses off of one sermon ..... To say there were no uplifting messages, would indicate someone missed a lot of the assembly.

My words were "never hear a message on growth." I stand by my statement as a person raised in it and deeply involved in it. I never heard a message on how to grow. Just told me what not to do and that I need to grow. Never anything in depth.

His message just brought back a flood of condemning messages that did nothing for the saint or the sinner in the crowd except maybe offering a judgmental head nod wanting people to see that you agreed with what was being said.

Honestly brother... you will never see what we are saying until you step out from behind the thick wall into the real world of lost people.

[rough_rider]

Then he growled and screamed a demonic sounding "Praaaaaaaaaaaaaissssse God!"

That remark was really uncalled for .

[PastorDaniel]

Then he growled and screamed a demonic sounding "Praaaaaaaaaaaaaissssse God!"

That remark was really uncalled for .

"demonic sounding" is a descriptive term......That is what it sounded like to me....I've already explained why I said it and also pointed out that I DID NOT call HIM demonic....but that his very loud, growling, scream SOUNDED demonic....I stand by it....

He shouldn't have called "hard driving and aggressive" Christian music "non-Christian" if he is going to be "hard driving and aggressive" himself...

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!!

[DaJudge]

Then he growled and screamed a demonic sounding "Praaaaaaaaaaaaaissssse God!"

That remark was really uncalled for .

"demonic sounding" is a descriptive term......That is what it sounded like to me....I've already explained why I said it and also pointed out that I DID NOT call HIM demonic....but that his very loud, growling, scream SOUNDED demonic....I stand by it....

He shouldn't have called "hard driving and aggressive" Christian music "non-Christian" if he is going to be "hard driving and aggressive" himself...

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!!

I fully agree with you Daniel. The irony was hilarious. Him condemning "aggressive hard driving Christian music", and the belching forth the scream of a hell spawn.

[one love]

Honestly brother... you will never see what we are saying until you step out from behind the thick wall into the real world of lost people.

Not sure what you mean but you dont know me that well then..the real world of lost people???????

If I have misunderstood anyone forgive me, I love you all and it may be better for me to not partake in this thread. This is why I avoid these type of discussions it brings instant division.

[Jamais Vu]

I can only say what he said was mostly sound biblical instruction on the pursuit of goldiness and holiness.

I think i would like to tap into some of this elusive "goldiness" you speak of! 2 or 3 bars and i think i would be set.

[Gerald Creasy]

I can only say what he said was mostly sound biblical instruction on the pursuit of goldiness and holiness.

Did you say pursuing goldiness???

Somehow, I think pursuing godliness comes not from avoiding a happenstance glimpsing of some untoward DVD cover at Blockbuster, but rather in seeking God, studying and contemplating scripture.

Wait a second let me rephrase that for TCOGgers as the speaker which preceeded Rob would have said it:

Somehow-huh
I think-UH
Pursuing-UH
Godliness-UH
comes not-uh
from-uh


...ah...skip it.

I must not be feelin the "anointing"

[Brian]

I can't believe I'm about to post this.......

First I have to admit that I haven't seen the part of the web cast that your talking about. But I think I can figure it out with what you guys have said and the fact that most of my life has been around "old time churchy" folks in my family.

I am like the king of movies! I should be a critic or something, it really is ridiculous. And no one can tell me that there isn't more skin in this dribble Hollywood is putting out than at a pork rinds convention!
And the violence? Lets be honest, it's a human slaughter house in some of these flicks! Now mind you, I LOVE MOST OF THESE MOVIES!!!! The Saw series, Dexter(a showtime series) and if it has beautiful women in it.......need I say more?

With all that being said, there isn't one of you who can honestly say that many of those movies are WAY over the top for what a professed christian should be partaking of. Even more so with our youth.
There is a teen show that come on one of the cable channels. Degrassy or such name. I guess its today's 90210 x10. It is full of suggestive behavior, teen drinking, sex, and the out right homosexual agenda being push too it's max! My daughter loves the show. I hate it! It is a constant battle of explaining why those ideals and morals don't benefit the life of the believer. It has almost come to the point that when I tell her that homosexuality (among other sins) is wrong she almost comes across that its mean to say that.....even when I say it in a loving manner of someone who is concerned with the soul of that person.
She has a gay friend (a guy) who actually comes over quite often, even spent the night a few times. ( IN ANOTHER ROOM!!) (she is 15).
We are very loving of this guy. He is really a great kid, just trapped in sin like I and many of you were. But it's hard to teach what is right when teens are bombarded with the opposite message and agenda.

So lets not act like it doesn't happen. Let's not act like movies, tv, and games don't influence of children and young adults because you know darn well it does!

I suppose we can debate all day about the METHOD that we combat these influences. But we do a disservice if we act like it doesn't exist.

Ok, I'm done. God bless

[Figilife]

[quote="Gerald Creasy"][quote="Poimen"]I can only say what he said was mostly sound biblical instruction on the pursuit of goldiness and holiness.
[/quote]


Did you say pursuing [b]goldiness[/b]???

Somehow, I think pursuing godliness comes not from avoiding a happenstance glimpsing of some untoward DVD cover at Blockbuster, but rather in seeking God, studying and contemplating scripture.

Wait a second let me rephrase that for TCOGgers as the speaker which
preceeded Rob would have said it:

Somehow-huh
I think-UH
Pursuing-UH
Godliness-UH
comes not-uh
from-uh


...ah...skip it.

I must not be feelin the "anointing"[/quote]

If you think that was funny you have a sick sense of humor and mocking like that i don't think you will feel the anointing

[Gerald Creasy]

If you think that was funny you have a sick sense of humor and mocking like that i don't think you will feel the anointing

It was not only funny; it was hilarious.

What was I mocking but bad preaching by an ignorant hick?

[Dr. Ron]

Okay, I'll get in here for a minute:

1. I was a screamer for a long time....it was for emphasis....always ....
Annointing has absolutely nothing to do with volumn. And "Whitmore"
didn't have a pa system. That is where that whole loud preaching thing
came from. It was a necessity. We grew to think it meant annointing,,,not
so. I preach very moderately compared to the days of "evangelism". I
get as much if not more response as ever and doing two sermons back to
back on Sunday, I don't have the energy for all that.

2. One love, I love you too man...but listen, heated debate is not always division. How does one get to know more. Just relax on the "division" thing and let some of us with "aggressive temperaments" go at it...and laugh at the antics. Some folks get "passionate" about subjects. Most of those who respond on here are very studious men and women who spend long hours of study of the word. I respect their right to say their mind.

3. I will say to you who are sympathetic to the TCOG theology and othes, the same as I say to Obama. If you don't want to deal with criticism, don't put your stuff out there for people to see. Obama said he didn't want people to criticize his wife....then tell her to keep her mouth shut.

4. The judgemental preaching that I heard will generally bring guilt and condemnation....neither of which is of God. I have done more of it in my life than I care to recall. I frequently pray that God will give people short term memory of some of the mess I preached..

So, that will get the ball rolling a little.