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Rick Warren/ obama, and McCain

Postby Dr. Ron » August 15th, 2008, 10:53 am

We may have had a post on this before, but this Saturday night (tomorrow) at 7 Central time , Rick Warren will be interviewing Obama and McCain at Saddleback on Fox News!!!!

I know some of you think the IA will be more important, but I doubt it will have the far reaching effect as this interview :lol: :lol: :lol: KIDDING all you COGOPers with a chip!

I hope someone knows how to do whatever it is you do on the computer to record this for all to see. It is already being called an historic event in the course of political interviews. Christians will likely be able to know exactly where these guys stand......and make good choices accordingly.

I doubt it will change my mind as I know where they stand already .....I think....but I will be glued to Fox!
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Postby Gerald Creasy » August 15th, 2008, 11:03 am

From the Following link:

Warren says he is going to get "Faith in Public Life" to help him come up with the questions to ask McCain and Obama. Who is "Faith in Public Life"?

Jim Wallis is America's foremost spokesman for the Religious Left. Bob Edgar, of course, is the former head of the National Council of Churches. Catherine Pinkerton sits on the Obama campaign's Catholic Advisory Council. Anybody see a pattern here?



More on the issue


Is Warren supposed to be Balanced.

Or something?

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Postby DeWayneTN » August 15th, 2008, 11:09 am

I read some of that as well, Gerald. It seems a highly concentrated push to drive disenfranchised Christians from the Republican party via one of the most popular evangelical voices. One article said he was going to avoid "gotcha" questions. Well, then, what's the point, exactly? To hear the same discourse we've been listening to for what seems like eternity already? I also heard that Warren is selling $2,000 tickets to this event at his church - hmmmmmmm.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » August 15th, 2008, 11:12 am

DeWayneTN wrote: I also heard that Warren is selling $2,000 tickets to this event at his church - hmmmmmmm.


Cha-CHING!!!!


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Postby DeWayneTN » August 15th, 2008, 11:20 am

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rick Warren/ obama, and McCain

Postby Dr. Ron » August 15th, 2008, 11:29 am

Rick has written every pastor I know whose address he has to ask for input. I got an email and sent him a response.

Did I misunderstand you that you think Rick is trying to move people away FROM the republican party? If so , you don't know him....

Anyway, the money is to pay the expenses for the candidates. Rick will not allow them to use campaign funds to show up and do this interview. He will not accept tax dollars either. He wants no connection to anything looking like favoritism on either side. He is not allowed to give all the money himself as it would surpass the allowable limit. Hence, the charge. I think it well done.

He is genuinley concerned that the liberal media will not delve into the spiritual side of either of them and they have both refused to come on Fox with Hannity. O'Rielly or anyone there.

Each feels that Rick can be trusted to be biased and not after ratings. His avoidance of "gotcha" questions is appropriate....trust me....you will hear their heart before he is done.

I look forward to something historical.
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Postby DeWayneTN » August 15th, 2008, 11:38 am

You read my post wrong - you misunderstood me. :wink: I don't think Rick is behind the push to move people away from the party, but there is a concentrated effort and I can't elevate the man to the god-like status of saying he's immune to being a pawn in that scheme.
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Rick Warren/ obama, and McCain

Postby Dr. Ron » August 15th, 2008, 11:44 am

Oh, okay I get your point Dewayne.

You are very astute there. However, I know that this CAN be a great asset to the "right wing" if they will listen with their ears and their heart.

It is really about getting the young people do pay attention......are you hearing me Bev???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Many of them are buying into his line......and boy do we have to take the blame for not turning out more well informed youth. That needs to be a major priority !!!!!
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Postby MacUser » August 15th, 2008, 11:57 am

Err. Dr Ron... Doesn't Rick Warren believe in man-made Global Warming as espoused by liberal left? I'm sure it will *cough, cough* good.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/national/08warm.html

Evangelical Climate Initiative

"For most of us, until recently this has not been treated as a pressing issue or major priority," the statement said. "Indeed, many of us have required considerable convincing before becoming persuaded that climate change is a real problem and that it ought to matter to us as Christians. But now we have seen and heard enough."

The television spot links images of drought, starvation and Hurricane Katrina to global warming. In it, the Rev. Joel Hunter, pastor of a megachurch in Longwood, Fla., says: "As Christians, our faith in Jesus Christ compels us to love our neighbors and to be stewards of God's creation. The good news is that with God's help, we can stop global warming, for our kids, our world and for the Lord."


The Evangelical Climate Initiative, at a cost of several hundred thousand dollars, is being supported by individuals and foundations, including the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Hewlett Foundation and the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation.

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I'm glad the Lord needs our help to stop Global Warming.
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Rick Warren/ obama, and McCain

Postby Dr. Ron » August 15th, 2008, 12:14 pm

Not sure about that yet....
Gotta check the Saddleback site for that one...

I just know this will be a great historical event.
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Postby DeWayneTN » August 15th, 2008, 12:35 pm

An early sneak preview has been leaked and I don't feel so good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4&fmt=18
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Postby dolfan » August 15th, 2008, 1:21 pm

Warren said he's not pro-choice, but that he's "whole life" and that not only does he care about the little girl who is unborn, but he cares about the little girl who is born and whether she gets an education.

Rick, whether she get's an education, as a political proposition, is not your concern. That's her momma and daddy's concern, it might be the church's concern, but it ain't yours and it ain't the business of the federal government or the President in a political sense. That's a local matter, it is a family matter. It is not an Obama or McCain matter. That you'd even bring in it up in the context of this forum with the candidates is just, IMO, out of bounds.

I'm all for the guy doing this, I think it is a fine idea. I'm big on the First Amendment. Go for it. I don't think it is going to do much of anything. I beleive it will reinforce notions and change few if any, or just be ignored with a collective shrug. If he wants to get people to fork out money to pay for that kind of earth-shattering evening, it just goes to show you what happens to a fool and his money.
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