Todd Bentley files for separation from his wife

[Jennifer Smith]

That, for me has been the hardest part, good doctor. I don't understand people following signs and wonders. That is what it is. If you went to experience revival, you were following after an event to experience God.

Don't be so hard on those who went, most of them were genuinely seeking God, which isn't wrong. If you were thirsty and heard of a pure source of water in a land muddied with dirty cisterns, you would go as far as necessary to find it. Some would question, raise eyebrows, or shake their heads at others for doing so, but I do not. Why should we judge their hearts or their intent? They are thirsty. They may be in dead churches and know there is something desperately wrong, and that there is something out there that they need. If you were poor, it would take humility to go to a house that was not your own to receive bread. Pride would keep you at home, starving, but eventually if you became desperate enough, you would go to where you knew there was fresh bread to be found.

[Dr. Ron]

Jennifer.

I don't have any problem at all with you disagreeing with me at all. Please feel free.

I understand your point. As we all speak out of our experience and perspective, we will always have disagreements of how something has impacted us.

I have certainly preached that scripture hundreds of times over the last 45 years. I believe it.....

What I am refering to is that the true "outpouring" is that that lives in a church and in the individual members.

When I was an evangelist, I was often introduced to the congregation by the pastor saying "Bro. Hamm didn't bring revival in his briefcase". I understood that....and I would respond by saying...."he is right, but I DID bring it in my heart." Revival lives there. If one is touched by that, then good.

I had a revival at Springplace in Cleve. It was scheduled for 6 nights and went for 3 weeks. Standing room only. But it was not about me and all the power God had entrusted to me. It was about that church being totally ready for God's presence. After I left (which was incidentally, not what God wanted) the revival stayed for a long time....Why, it was God blessing that local congregation for their sacrifice of praise and prayer.

I believe in the "later day move" but it will be locally by all doing their part and not by some well groomed pompus egomanic, or by a tatooed sensationalist.....as Gerald would have put it....but by humble people on their knees before God.

I used to ask God why people came to hear me preach. I still don't think I have much to say, beyond the obvious....what He says in his word.

I love you lady...you are the real deal....don't let crusty old men like me take away your joy, but on the other hand, don't discount that maybe ,,,,just maybe we might have a little to offer....and I have never felt that you didn't see it just that way.

Hang in there children of God......It's a comin!!!!!!!

[Gerald Creasy]

I believe Pensacola, Lakeland and Toronto are the Pentecostal equivalents of Catholic Llordes, Medjugorje and the latest stain that looks like The Virgin Mary.

Even the experiences are the same.

You can't convince those people they're nuts cause they judge Theological reality by their subjective experience. They've seen angels by staring into the SUN, SEEN the Virgin Mary even though shes a dead Jewish girl, they even claim healing.

If we judge WHAT IS RIGHT by experiences we MUST THEN BELIEVE that The Virgin Mary is supernatural (and with current Pentecostalism enveloping all manner of heretical ideas about GOD, I wouldnt be suprised to find someone say "So what if she is.")

[Jennifer Smith]

I believe Pensacola, Lakeland and Toronto are the Pentecostal equivalents of Catholic Llordes, Medjugorje and the latest stain that looks like The Virgin Mary.

I couldn't disagree more, but that made me laugh...!

[Jennifer Smith]

What I am refering to is that the true "outpouring" is that that lives in a church and in the individual members.

This is the kind an outpouring I want, too, an outpouring that lives in a church and in the individual members will eventually spill out if it gets full enough...!

And thanks for your kind words!!

We are getting ready to head out to a rock concert at an a/g church- have a great night..