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Postby secretary » August 18th, 2008, 4:36 pm

Anyone know what happened to Ken Baker and why SC has an interim overseer?

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Postby stevenson » August 18th, 2008, 5:44 pm

I heard that it was a last minute decision by Bishop Baker. Other than hearing that I have no idea.
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Postby Pastor Gary » August 18th, 2008, 7:06 pm

Ken Baker and I are old friends, and I would never presume to speak for him in specifics about his decision, but I can say it was a last minute final decision made as a matter of conscience on his part, as he has some deeply held core values that differ in some respects from our current direction.
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Postby billythekid » August 19th, 2008, 2:22 pm

is fred fisher still going to pastor and be the interim SO?

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Postby free » August 19th, 2008, 3:23 pm

I thought it might be due to something coming out that he had a strong conviction about...From my understanding he was a good overseer to work for and I wish him well.

Does anyone know if he's going to be pastoring somewhere?
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Postby DaJudge » August 19th, 2008, 3:52 pm

What in the world changed this year that would have caused him to leave now? Most people who were going to leave left after the last assembly.

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Postby Cpt. Jack » August 19th, 2008, 4:02 pm

DaJudge said,
What in the world changed this year that would have caused him to leave now? Most people who were going to leave left after the last assembly.

It seems he did not want to go in the direction that the IO wanted. That is his convictions would not let him give in to their will.

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Postby Pastorbps » August 19th, 2008, 4:17 pm

Yeah but what did the IO want him to do that went against his convictions?

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Postby Pastor Gary » August 19th, 2008, 4:54 pm

Pastorbps wrote:Yeah but what did the IO want him to do that went against his convictions?


I do not feel at liberty to discuss the details I am aware of, but I can say it was not anything huge that changed this year as much as the cumulative series of changes in polity. Ken is an awesome leader, and I would love to work with him, or under him.

I respect his decision as one of personal conscience, and believe it was not done in anger or hurt, just a his choice.
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Postby billythekid » August 19th, 2008, 5:18 pm

i hate to see ken go...he is a good man. will someone in the state step up to fill the position permenantly? i would imagine it will be a lot for f.f. to do this and pastor for a lengthy tenure.

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Postby Pastorbps » August 20th, 2008, 8:01 am

I'd still like to know what pushed him to make that spur of the moment decision. The appointment of an interim overseer makes it obvious something happened that made him suddenly resign. I understood he got his letter stating he would be returning as overseer so whatever happened must have happened at the Assembly.

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Postby Rob » August 20th, 2008, 8:04 am

Why not call Brother Ken and ask him, and get it straight from the horses mouth?
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Postby Pastor Gary » August 20th, 2008, 9:06 am

Pastorbps wrote:I'd still like to know what pushed him to make that spur of the moment decision. The appointment of an interim overseer makes it obvious something happened that made him suddenly resign. I understood he got his letter stating he would be returning as overseer so whatever happened must have happened at the Assembly.


Nothing "happened" per se... I think he had been wrestling with some issues for a long time. We sat in Hawaii and discussed some things when he and Robin were on their honeymoon. I think he just reached the "I don't want to do this any more" point and felt he had to say so before his name was read again. IMHO, of course.
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Re: Baker

Postby TC » August 20th, 2008, 3:35 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:Ken Baker and I are old friends, and I would never presume to speak for him in specifics about his decision, but I can say it was a last minute final decision made as a matter of conscience on his part, as he has some deeply held core values that differ in some respects from our current direction.


I so respect that, He did what he felt he had to do and he just did not stay where he was against his conscience, because it was a job and he got a check.

I am not sure of any reasons, don't need to know his reasons, but I do have a new level of respect for him.


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