Explanations?

[KBevangelist]

. With the power of the internet we should not be having all these questions. Any announcements etc that were given at the IA should have been posted on our Cogop.org website. Ohe well we can read about CeCe winans Ministery and Army Chaplains but not about ministries in our own ORG.

Billy I love you man. THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

Pastor Rob, my favorite Wva fan, You are correct, communicating brings favor. When Dr. H. E. Cardin was overseer of Ga, there was constant communication.

When HQ does not communicate properly or to everyone, they will open themselves up to critque and critizism

KB

[Kenya]

I wish he would come here and just get some of the pastors to pay their bills.

Down boy.

[Dr. Ron]

If you will all read my post on Billy Wilson and Larry Duncan, you may understand some of this....

Also, some of you must be awfully young! Has the operation of GO changed "THAT" much.

We never knew in the days of MAT or BM who would be left out and who would stay. We never knew what new department Elwood or Perry would come up with next.....lol Elwood was responsible for at least 4 and Perry at least 5.

The GO would jus announce it in his annual address and someone would be appointed and that would be that.....

And what is up with doing an annual address on TUESDAY? Who was there then?

Anyway, some of you are acting like this is a new direction.....nope ....just a different guy....it's always been done this way.

[scooter]

And what is up with doing an annual address on TUESDAY? Who was there then?
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Response: I thought I listened to his address on Saturday?

[Pastor Gary]

And what is up with doing an annual address on TUESDAY? Who was there then?

The GO's Annual Address was on Saturday. On Tuesday he felt it in order to give an informational report during the time given for committee reports. It was a summation of some information he presented during the International Presbytery Meetings pre-assembly.

[paul]

If you will all read my post on Billy Wilson and Larry Duncan, you may understand some of this....

Also, some of you must be awfully young! Has the operation of GO changed "THAT" much.

We never knew in the days of MAT or BM who would be left out and who would stay. We never knew what new department Elwood or Perry would come up with next.....lol Elwood was responsible for at least 4 and Perry at least 5.

The GO would jus announce it in his annual address and someone would be appointed and that would be that.....

And what is up with doing an annual address on TUESDAY? Who was there then?

Anyway, some of you are acting like this is a new direction.....nope ....just a different guy....it's always been done this way.

Generally in a top down organization the direction is more dictated by the organization than the one who leads it. It takes on a life form of its own.

Occasionally a rare breed of leader will take on the challenge of trying to change the organizations direction. He will make many enemies, but will manage to make a few drastic changes. He will generally become the fall guy and much anger will be taken out on him.

After his departure the next guy will step in and because he did'nt make all the drastic changes he becomes the savior of the organization. Only to discover that all the terrible mistakes made by his predicessor weren't all that bad and has actually helped the organization and he will continue them, but now those have taken a life of its own and the cycle continues........

[Dr. Ron]

Sorry, I must have read the posts wrong....I was under the impression from Bill's post that it was Tuesday.....

Glad that was wrong.!

[Pastor Bill]

Sorry, I must have read the posts wrong....I was under the impression from Bill's post that it was Tuesday.....

Glad that was wrong.!

Actually I was talking about Tuesday, he gave a "report" on Tuesday (I called it an address which caused the confusion with his actual address on Saturday)

The focus on Tuesday was changes that were coming, how they were cutting down some things at the IO to provide funding out to regional presbyters so that they could help out more in the field. I felt like many of the questions people have addressed here were answered in that report.

[Rob]

I felt like many of the questions people have addressed here were answered in that report.

From the questions that have been asked here obviously they were not answered there.

[Pastor Bill]

I felt like many of the questions people have addressed here were answered in that report.

From the questions that have been asked here obviously they were not answered there.

Or since the attendance at that time was much lower, and it being listed as a business meeting, many may not have listened to it.

I'm not saying it's all the details everyone wants, but it does include at least the rational and direction.

[Rob]

but it does include at least the rational and direction.

From your point of view.

[Pastor Bill]

but it does include at least the rational and direction.

From your point of view.

Not sure exactly what you mean there, he gave rational and direction, and these changes go along with that, is there more to the story, quite possibly, not saying there isn't, but I don't think it's fair to say they said NOTHING about it either. Many are going to want more details, and I understand that. More details probably would have been better.

[KBevangelist]

The focus on Tuesday was changes that were coming, how they were cutting down some things at the IO to provide funding out to regional presbyters so that they could help out more in the field. I felt like many of the questions people have addressed here were answered in that report.

I was there and must have missed something. I will re-listen to it again

KB

[Pastor Bill]

The focus on Tuesday was changes that were coming, how they were cutting down some things at the IO to provide funding out to regional presbyters so that they could help out more in the field. I felt like many of the questions people have addressed here were answered in that report.

I was there and must have missed something. I will re-listen to it again

KB

I think most people were more focused on the $200,000 being diverted out of the IO and didn't pay as much attention to where that was coming from. He wasn't specific on alot of the details, but did share they were trying to focus on 2 main things, the harvest and leadership development. Other areas they were cutting back on.

[Rob]

but it does include at least the rational and direction.

From your point of view.

Not sure exactly what you mean there, he gave rational and direction, and these changes go along with that, is there more to the story, quite possibly, not saying there isn't, but I don't think it's fair to say they said NOTHING about it either. Many are going to want more details, and I understand that. More details probably would have been better.

My point is simple. On this forum there has been a lot of questions raised from several as to some decisions that were made. From your point of view the rational and direction was understood, for others it was not. Which simple means more details were needed to help with the understanding of what was done to ease some of the apprehensions of some.