Fellow Confederates

[Gerald Creasy]

It is not a racist flag but it now symbolizes racism because of those who have adopted it.

Then you should not show a cross either, cause they burn those as a symbol of racism.

[one love]

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[Gerald Creasy]

Good intellect.....

!!!! An insult from OneLove!!!!!????

...nobody looks at a cross in this nation as a symbol of racism, they dont.
When there is a cross on your t-shirt nobody thinks "hey he is a racist" they think"hey he believes in Jesus"

Now if you burn a cross in your yard they will say "hey he is a racist"
Point made for me.

White sheets are not racist if you use them on your bed, correct? Place them on your whole body and cut out eye holes, tell me what that says.

Now how am I a sell out?

A sell out gives up what he does not have to give up.

A southerner DOES NOT have to give up his flag just because the MEDIA tells you ONLY RACISTS FLY IT.

A person who DOES NOT sell out says "Now wait just a cotton pickin' minute.

The truth of the cross defies the racist use of it, but the truth behind the flag has to be stamped out because racists use it??? It's not their flag. They've stolen it. Hey which reminds me.......

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[dolfan]

In my own view, the Confederate flag is not now worth displaying outside of museums and other places that preserve history or discuss it/teach it.

My reason is simple. We are a nation at war. We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America as "one nation, under God" and go on to call it "indivisible". Whatever of history is true about the Civil War, its reasons, the motivations both personal and political of those who engineered it or opposed it, the fact is that today, we have pledged ourselves to the USA. Because we are at war, it offends me (and I don't offend easily) that any of our serving men and women would be diminished in any way -- even symbolically -- because of any lingering or transient allegiance I may have or feel to a nation that ceased to exist 100 years before my birth, a nation which opposed the very forces that are now fighting for my safety and freedom.

Now, I don't particularly like to think of the CSA as being a hostile power to the USA (I've said here before that my great-great grandfather was a veteran of the 22nd Georgia Infantry, and his gravestone in eastern Lawrence County, Alabama says as much, and I have copies of his old Confederate Soldiers and Sailors benefits application from 1896 --- benefits extended by the United States federal government), but it was. There was a bloody war where brothers shot at each other with big lead rounds and blew large holes in each other's bodies to gain ground. There were travesties and tragedies all around. The philosophical and constitutional reasons for the war may have been such that the war was an inevitable one. Nonetheless, one side prevailed and the other surrendered. The states that seceded were readmitted to the Union and the CSA ceased to exist. The old, cultural mistrust and disdain between north and south very well remains to this day, but I don't want any private, airman, sailor, or marine to be the object of "yankee" or "rebel" scorn. I can't, personally, with a straight face say I love this country and say I love the CSA or its existence at the same time. I am an American, a citizen of the United States, and I have one flag, the Stars & Stripes, to which I owe and pay allegiance as a citizen.

[scooter]

Hey which reminds me.......

Response: Of stealing a flag?

[one love]

In my own view, the Confederate flag is not now worth displaying outside of museums and other places that preserve history or discuss it/teach it.

My reason is simple. We are a nation at war. We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America as "one nation, under God" and go on to call it "indivisible". Whatever of history is true about the Civil War, its reasons, the motivations both personal and political of those who engineered it or opposed it, the fact is that today, we have pledged ourselves to the USA. Because we are at war, it offends me (and I don't offend easily) that any of our serving men and women would be diminished in any way -- even symbolically -- because of any lingering or transient allegiance I may have or feel to a nation that ceased to exist 100 years before my birth, a nation which opposed the very forces that are now fighting for my safety and freedom.

Now, I don't particularly like to think of the CSA as being a hostile power to the USA (I've said here before that my great-great grandfather was a veteran of the 22nd Georgia Infantry, and his gravestone in eastern Lawrence County, Alabama says as much, and I have copies of his old Confederate Soldiers and Sailors benefits application from 1896 --- benefits extended by the United States federal government), but it was. There was a bloody war where brothers shot at each other with big lead rounds and blew large holes in each other's bodies to gain ground. There were travesties and tragedies all around. The philosophical and constitutional reasons for the war may have been such that the war was an inevitable one. Nonetheless, one side prevailed and the other surrendered. The states that seceded were readmitted to the Union and the CSA ceased to exist. The old, cultural mistrust and disdain between north and south very well remains to this day, but I don't want any private, airman, sailor, or marine to be the object of "yankee" or "rebel" scorn. I can't, personally, with a straight face say I love this country and say I love the CSA or its existence at the same time. I am an American, a citizen of the United States, and I have one flag, the Stars & Stripes, to which I owe and pay allegiance as a citizen.

Great post...great post

[one love]

Hey which reminds me.......

Response: Of stealing a flag?

HA did not even see that another chance to insult..

[Alan]

Good intellect.....nobody looks at a cross in this nation as a symbol of racism, they dont.
When there is a cross on your t-shirt nobody thinks "hey he is a racist" they think"hey he believes in Jesus"

Now if you burn a cross in your yard they will say "hey he is a racist"
Point made for me.

White sheets are not racist if you use them on your bed, correct? Place them on your whole body and cut out eye holes, tell me what that says.

I am very proud of my Southern heritage.

Basically what you are saying is that it's ok for a small group to be offended as long as they are not a minority? I am offended each time someone makes comments that the battle flag is a racist symbol, each time it is removed from a state flag. Does that make me racist?

BTW, if you're wearing those white sheets, you may be dressing up as a ghost for halloween.

Should we let a few pervert a symbol of our heritage to be a racist symbol? If a hate group starts using the All Nations Flag will we look on that as a symbol of racism?

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[scooter]

Should we let a few pervert a symbol of our heritage to be a racist symbol? If a hate group starts using the All Nations Flag will we look on that as a symbol of racism?

Response: Maybe that's why we didn't have the church flag on the stage. Maybe its been stolen to represent a type of spiritual racism.

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[Paully_44]

Since I was born/raised in Washington state, which didnt become a state until after the civil war, I guess this makes me a "has-been" or "wanna-be"

[RamboPreacher]

In my own view, the Confederate flag is not now worth displaying outside of museums and other places that preserve history or discuss it/teach it...

excellent post.

[Jennifer Smith]

Okay, Gerald, since you asked, I'm telling you. They do not like to see that flag. We pastored Jamaican Americans in a redneck neighborhood where "confederate" flags were flown. They did not like them, and they did not like the way they were treated by those rednecks either, but they still loved them because of Jesus residing inside them.

I would like to challenge you on this. I will even burn my TBN membership card (as if I had one ) if you will prayerfully consider if you are not a little biased in some areas you need to challenge yourself in, and maybe we all do.