Fellow Confederates

[Gerald Creasy]

Okay, Gerald, since you asked, I'm telling you. They do not like to see that flag. We pastored Jamaican Americans in a redneck neighborhood where "confederate" flags were flown. They did not like them, and they did not like the way they were treated by those rednecks either, but they still loved them because of Jesus residing inside them.

I would like to challenge you on this. I will even burn my TBN membership card (as if I had one ) if you will prayerfully consider if you are not a little biased in some areas you need to challenge yourself in, and maybe we all do.

You are painting with a broad brush. Your are sterotyping.

You say "they" as a total.

I have shown you you are in error.

There are someof those "they" who DO like them.

You get in trouble with the "they" statements:
For example: THEY like fried chicken, THEY like watermelon, THEY like Cadillacs with white walls.

Your THEY statement is no different.

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[oletimer]

If I might put my two cents worth in here. The South fought hard for what they believed in and that was the rights of self government. No body likes things crammed down their throat.
As for as the battles, we won most of them, but was starved out in the end. Our land and homes was burned and ramshacked. Then when the war was supposed to be over then have you ever heard the word "scallywag". It was a term that was given to northerns that came down here stoled from us with the US. government OK.

Yes we lost the war as far as the battle field, but we still retain our pride honor. You might say that despite all we still hold our head up high.

[Jennifer Smith]

Okay, Gerald, since you asked, I'm telling you. They do not like to see that flag. We pastored Jamaican Americans in a redneck neighborhood where "confederate" flags were flown. They did not like them, and they did not like the way they were treated by those rednecks either, but they still loved them because of Jesus residing inside them.

I would like to challenge you on this. I will even burn my TBN membership card (as if I had one ) if you will prayerfully consider if you are not a little biased in some areas you need to challenge yourself in, and maybe we all do.

You are painting with a broad brush. Your are sterotyping.

You say "they" as a total.

I have shown you you are in error.

There are someof those "they" who DO like them.

You get in trouble with the "they" statements:
For example: THEY like fried chicken, THEY like watermelon, THEY like Cadillacs with white walls.

Your THEY statement is no different.

Cute, but no cigar. It's not the same thing. Show me an African American who likes the confederate flag, and then we'll talk. When you have bias, it means that you prejudge or discriminate against people of certain denominational, racial, or gender groups based on your own personal experience or view of that group. That is the part of the post I would like to get to... do you feel you have some personal bias to acknowledge and learn to work around, change, etc.

[Gerald Creasy]

Cute, but no cigar. It's not the same thing. Show me an African American who likes the confederate flag, and then we'll talk.

Laugh out Loud?

In truth, I see that you are blonde, for I have shown you photos and names of men who were African American and who not only liked the flag but were comfortable with it.

And you still persist with your sterotypes.

[Mike Vande]

A southerner DOES NOT have to give up his flag just because the MEDIA tells you ONLY RACISTS FLY IT.

No, but if southerners would remember that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, they might be a little less ready to fly a rebel flag. And, it the south had me a bit less southern and proud of it and a lot more Christian and obedient to the Lord, there wouldn't have been a Civil War in the first place.

[TW]

Jennifer, I can introduce you to several, as you like to call them "African Americans" (which by the way is an inaccurate classification) that are not offended by the flag. Or, in the fact that Africans were enslaved through out history, and not just in the Americas. They have come to terms with the truth. They do not blame the "evil" white man for slavery, rather they realize that for the most part their own people (read as Africans) sold their ancestors into slavery. It might interest you to know that slavery has been around for thousands of years, and not just the African slave trade. So many Slavs were sold into slavery that the very word "Slave" is derived from their name.

Yes, slavery was bad. It always was and always will be. But until all people can come to terms with the truth there will be some that will be offended.


TW

[TW]

A southerner DOES NOT have to give up his flag just because the MEDIA tells you ONLY RACISTS FLY IT.

No, but if southerners would remember that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, they might be a little less ready to fly a rebel flag. And, it the south had me a bit less southern and proud of it and a lot more Christian and obedient to the Lord, there wouldn't have been a Civil War in the first place.

Mike, would the same rule apply to the American Revolution"


TW

[Full Quiver]

Well if I had received a beating in high school for wearing my rebel flag tie then the poor soul that beat me would have met his maker. You've heard of suicide by cop; ever heard of suicide by hick? We carried bow and arrows and deer rifles to school daily.

Let's think about this a bit. Our soldiers are sometimes accused of atrocities in Iraq such as rape and murder. I'm sure that each case is different, some are innocent and some are guilty. We frown on the guilty and the world frowns on us all because of the few.

The North "won" because the North participated in such tactics. They murdered civilians, women and children, and rape was probably part of it. They burnt Georgia to the ground nearly. That would be viewed as a war crime in today's time. Innocent folks lost ALL because of Sherman and Lincoln. The South had no interest in burning New York to the ground but maybe we should have. Our beef was not with civilians but with the Feds.

Dolfan, I am a citizen of these United States. I believe in state's rights and feel they are worth fighting for. We can do that in a civilized way through legislation and debate today. I hope it never comes down to war between the states again. I do believe in the right of any state to succeed if they feel the need. If I join the YMCA I can opt out if I choose to in the future.

[Jennifer Smith]

Cute, but no cigar. It's not the same thing. Show me an African American who likes the confederate flag, and then we'll talk.

In truth, I see that you are blonde, for I have shown you photos and names of men who were African American and who not only liked the flag but were comfortable with it.

I'm a brunette, though I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

I don't recall that conversation.

[Full Quiver]

I wore white sheets many nights as a child.

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[paul]

[TW] They have come to terms with the truth. They do not blame the "evil" white man for slavery, rather they realize that for the most part their own people (read as Africans) sold their ancestors into slavery.

While I agree in part with you, I must take exception to the above statement.

I work in Ghana, Africa..it was this country more than most African Nations that the greatest amoount of slaves came through. you are aware that tribes would enter into the deeper parts of interior African and raid the villages for slaves. Bring many of them back through Ghana. The dutch was among the first to transport slaves, then France and Britian.

You would be hard pressed in any African Nation to find African who do not blame the "White Man" for slavery. Even though as you pointed out that they were sold by their own. You can add to that slavery the slavery that came through colonization by the "White Power Nations" who raped and pilliages the countries.

Nor do I think if you stopped the average American of African Decent on the street that he would agree with you.

The only sane post on this subject was that of Dolfan.

Somehow I suppose that Copeland or Hinn will get the blame for the south loosing the war.

[one love]

Funny Paul I did not see where my post was insane but thats all good

I am done with this people perceive things without wanting to understand, so I love ya all

[paul]

Funny Paul I did not see where my post was insane but thats all good

I am done with this people perceive things without wanting to understand, so I love ya all

One love, let me rephrase. dolfan's IMHO made the most sense. Not that some of the others were not correct and meant from the right attitude. I am sorry.