Fellow Confederates

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald, why do you know so much about the NBF and the KKK?

Or, to use an approach you may be familiar with:

AHA! Confirmed!! He is a KK KLANSMAN!! Now, let the lynching begin. J/K

Because, as a child I used to live outside of New Johnsonville, TN.
New JOhnsonville was NEW Johnsonville because NBF sat up on the opposite side of the river and shelled the Union Held town until a fire totally wiped it out and shell any passing federal steamboat which they are still pulling out of the water.
His military position became the NBF State park where the COGOP frequently picniced.

Because the late Shelby Foote -used extensively in the Ken Burns PBS Civil War special- said the war produced two men of genius, one of whom was NBF.

Because the man could take a number of men and rout Federal troops outnumbering him 5 to 1 or talk a held town into surrendering through deception -without firing a shot.

But mainly because I don't want to be a media fed ignoramous all my life.

[oletimer]

Ilovebigcats Posted:

one love wrote:
I never called you a racist...

The word, my dear, is races. Don't you know anything?

According to the New World Dictionary One Love is more right then you are unless you are trying to cross a finish line.

[Jennifer Smith]

His military position became the NBF State park where the COGOP frequently picniced.

Gerald, if you like history, the Frasier Arms History Museum is having their founders day celebration Saturday, free admission.

The kids enjoy going there, and we always do too.

[Mike Vande]

Mike,

I have a guitar. I can hold it and make a few notes. Strum a few chords.

How would I sound speaking authoritatively on the subject of guitar playing to you? with your skill?

Gerald,
it seems odd to me that you comment on the error in my post, which was actually just an aside to the actual point in it, without addressing the actual point. Perhaps it shouldn't, I don't know.
But even with all my "skill", I would at least hope to be gracious in offering correction over something as inconsequential as playing the guitar. Just something to pray about, brah...

[pastorables]

Gerald,

Have you seen this movie? It seems to be based upon southern heritage and the Civil War.

pa

http://www.thelist-themovie.com/index.html

SYNOPSIS

Georgetown, South Carolina, 1863

With news of the defeat at Gettysburg ringing in their ears, a group of wealthy Confederate landowners meet on a stormy night to form a secret blood covenant to protect their families' fortunes. One man refuses to sign, uttering a dark prophecy against the dangers of greed and black magic. Ignoring the warning, the men pool their gold in a desperate attempt to smuggle their treasures to Europe.

140 years later, Renny Jacobson, a young Charlotte lawyer, is shaken by news of his father's mysterious death. Although they were never close, the young man is stunned to discover that his father has left his substantial estate to charity, leaving his son with nothing but a reference to an obscure entity called "the Covenant List of South Carolina, Ltd."

Mystified, Renny sets out on a quest to learn the truth about "The List." Along the way, he meets the lovely Jo Johnston, another descendent of a family bound to the secret society. Renny soon discovers that they are both inheritors of an ancient and sinister secret - as well as a vast fortune.

As he delves into his own shadowy past, Renny learns the hard way that tragedy follows those who bind themselves to The List. Having signed the covenant with his own blood, he is unprepared to fight the evil forces that now seek to devour everything - and anyone - Renny holds dear. As his world crumbles, he is joined in the spiritual battle by some unlikely and courageous heroes.

In an unexpected and thrilling climax, Renny finds that he must fulfill the prophecy spoken in 1863 and destroy the power of The List - or risk losing the true treasure that has changed his life.

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald,

Have you seen this movie? It seems to be based upon southern heritage and the Civil War.

pa

No I have not, but I seriously doubt that at the end of the Civil War there was much wealth at all left in the South.

I mean they were collecting chamberpot product in order to make gunpowder!!

[Poimen]

It really is a shame. If Britian had of officially backed the South things could be a whole lot better today. The threat of war from the U.S., though valid, was not of great consequence for Britian with the Union so preoccupied with the War between the States (IMO). The blockade probably owuld have collapsed, and munitions and other supplies and trade would have continued for the South.

The Bloackade itself was an illegal act based on the premise of the Union that the Confederacy was rebllious states of the Union. The action was essentially official recognition by the USA that the CSA was a sovereign foreign power it was at war with.

[Gerald Creasy]

It really is a shame. If Britian had of officially backed the South things could be a whole lot better today. The threat of war from the U.S., though valid, was not of great consequence for Britian with the Union so preoccupied with the War between the States (IMO). The blockade probably owuld have collapsed, and munitions and other supplies and trade would have continued for the South.

The Bloackade itself was an illegal act based on the premise of the Union that the Confederacy was rebllious states of the Union. The action was essentially official recognition by the USA that the CSA was a sovereign foreign power it was at war with.

Are you familiar with the Trent Afair???

Another such incident occured when Federal troops pursued Bennet Young (I live a mile or two from Youngland) and his Confederates raided a town and escaped into Canada. Of course Borders didnt mean anything to Federal troops and so they pursued into Canada.

Two Incidents off the top of My head that came Periously close to having a larger scale war.

[Alan]

A southerner DOES NOT have to give up his flag just because the MEDIA tells you ONLY RACISTS FLY IT.

No, but if southerners would remember that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, they might be a little less ready to fly a rebel flag. And, it the south had me a bit less southern and proud of it and a lot more Christian and obedient to the Lord, there wouldn't have been a Civil War in the first place.

So attempting to follow something that the Declaration of Independence says should be done is rebellion?

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness”

Which then the American Revolution should be the American Rebellion anyway so what's the difference?

For those who think the civil war was about slavery, explain why the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the south and not in Maryland. Explain why slavery didn't really end with the war but just took on a new form and a new name. Sharecroppers were more or less slaves. My grandfather worked for a turpentine company, when he got his check, he was forced to spend it at the company commissary where things were way over priced. He lost his job because he took his check into town to buy groceries since he could get more for his money. Granted he had the right to do that since he wasn't truly a slave, but in an area where you can only work for a limited number of people, and you have to have money for food and a place to stay, you don't have the money to move anywhere else, what are you going to do?

The US is considered arrogant in many parts of the world, does that make you ashamed to be a US Citizen? My family fought for what they believed, they were not slave owners. The problem is, the winners right the history books, the losers story is only told from generation to generation so many think that was the only thing the war was about. That is why it is considered a racist symbol, even by some of those who were born and raised here.

Do I fly the flag myself? No, I do have one of the old Georgia flags somewhere, the one before that awful blue "Roy's Rag". My heritage is still displayed on the new Georgia flag, as it is modeled after the Confederate national flag. I only wish there was more education about what the civil war was really about, then maybe some people would open there eyes and realize that it wasn't because of slavery.

[Mike Vande]

So attempting to follow something that the Declaration of Independence says should be done is rebellion?

Must be. They call themselves rebels, just ask one...