Obama: Lipstick on a pig...

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » September 10th, 2008, 3:13 am

Is still a pig.

Do you think Obama targeted Palin on this?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/0 ... of-change/

DeWayneTN · Postby **DeWayneTN** » September 10th, 2008, 3:22 am

I don't know if it was intentional toward Palin, but it sure was a dumb thing to say.

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » September 10th, 2008, 3:27 am

I thought it was a shot at her, but she's fair game isn't she? I hope she's as tough as she appears to be. If she is, she won't worry about the remark, or she'll turn it around and make herself charming while slapping him down over it. Where is she, though? They need to get her back out there quickly to keep her big Mo going.

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » September 10th, 2008, 3:29 am

Of course. And of course he's denying it.

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » September 10th, 2008, 3:51 am

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080910/D933S9QG0.html

McCain's campaign called the comments "offensive and disgraceful" and said Obama owes Palin an apology. Obama's campaign said he wasn't referring to Palin and said the GOP camp was engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card."

Postby **Shellie** » September 10th, 2008, 4:27 am

Awww shucks... I think it was an awesome thing to say. She's tough enough to take it and it works like a walk in baseball. It may have hurt for a moment, but it gave her an extra base.

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » September 10th, 2008, 4:46 am

This was a classic rope a dope attempt. Make a general related negative comment, deny its purpose, and then claim the OTHER party is playing the Gender Card.

*Transparent Ploy* to get some media attention

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » September 10th, 2008, 5:50 am

MacUser wrote:This was a classic rope a dope attempt. Make a general related negative comment, deny its purpose, and then claim the OTHER party is playing the Gender Card.

*Transparent Ploy* to get some media attention

That's exactly right. Last night, it wasn't 10 minutes after the Obama remark hit Drudge that MSNBC or CNN or one of 'em had it up that McCain had made the same remark about Hillary-care in the 90's. No coincidence. The whole thing was planned. Think the "old fish" remark wasn't a reference to McCain himself? Please. She's a pig in lipstick and he's an old fish wrapped in paper ...... but you can't say it was personal because McCain said as much about Hillary's health care plan. They had their cover intact before he ever said it.

Ilovebigcats · Postby **Ilovebigcats** » September 10th, 2008, 7:19 am

It is a common saying in politics. It is a way of saying they are making it look like change but it really isn't. He wasn't referring to Palin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w
McCain has used it himself.

Postby **Shellie** » September 10th, 2008, 7:43 am

Cats wrote:

It is a common saying in politics. It is a way of saying they are making it look like change but it really isn't. He wasn't referring to Palin.

Yes, we know that. :wink:

It is a common saying in politics and that is what he is standing behind. However, with PR people standing behind your every word and deed...it was not said simply as a cliche. It was not said totally unaware of the precedented joke.

It was intented to be a hit against her lipstick joke and it was intended to try and be excused away later by saying that it is a common saying in politics.

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » September 10th, 2008, 7:53 am

Shellie, you go, girl! :urock:

It was totally orchestrated from the get go.

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » September 10th, 2008, 7:56 am

Shellie wrote:It was intented to be a hit against her lipstick joke and it was intended to try and be excused away later by saying that it is a common saying in politics.

Bingo. The crowd went nuts when he said that. Obama's purpose and intent was obvious by all. This sounds like a Clinton tip... or another definition of what the word IS.. is.

Remember I'm not saying Palin is fragile or she can't adequately defend herself. Two different points. I'm simply calling out the comment as what it is.

Do you want a leader that acts cute and can dance around issues well.. or someone that can hit it right between the eyes and have the integrity to mean it. I vote for the latter.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 10th, 2008, 8:05 am

Joe Biden made a lipstick joke as well it was well planned and everyone knows what it meant.
Yes it is a saying that is used a lot but based on the "pit bull/lipstick" remark it was used to slander her and he knew it, so did the crowd he was speaking to.

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » September 10th, 2008, 8:08 am

Shellie wrote:Cats wrote:

It is a common saying in politics. It is a way of saying they are making it look like change but it really isn't. He wasn't referring to Palin.

Yes, we know that. It is a common saying in politics and that is what he is standing behind. However, with PR people standing behind your every word and deed...it was not said simply as a cliche. It was not said totally unaware of the precedented joke.

It was intented to be a hit against her lipstick joke and it was intended to try and be excused away later by saying that it is a common saying in politics.

And we all said AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

He knew what he was doing. If he didn't he is more stupid than I thought

KB

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » September 10th, 2008, 8:25 am

Check this out

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2078816/posts

KB

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