Was told I did not believe

[Penny]

I am about at the end of my rope today

Today I had to call the dr back b/c Joseph was still hurting...

The dr called and told me he wanted to see him again and try a different kind of shot.



I told this to someone who told me Penny if you keep taking him back to the dr you are saying God is not able to heal him AND YOUR FAITH IS WEEK Penny we prayed and that is the end of it

Well this bug me So bad. I told this person when your child has been in non stop pain for 8 days and can not eat you can do what you feel is right. For now I am doing what I feel is best for my child. I told this person today is not a day to do this to me, i told them bye and HUNG UP ON THEM.

I fully know and believe god can heal. I all so know the Lord has given dr's the know how to help people get better.

I just want my son better and fussing at his sister again.

[MacUser]

Praying.

[Gerald Creasy]

I told this to someone who told me Penny if you keep taking him back to the dr you are saying God is not able to heal him AND YOUR FAITH IS WEEK Penny we prayed and that is the end of it

Penny tell them to mind their own business.

People like that are too stupid for their own good.

[INLOVE]

Penny,
You do what you need to do and don't worry about what other people say. I am praying for you!

[one love]

Penny,

I am sorry for the remarks that have been made to you. Yes I believe God can heal but I also believe God gave doctors wisdom.
I believe that if you suffer from a sickness/pain etc. and you feel you need to go to the doctor, GO. When God heals you then you will not need to go any longer. If you are prescribed medicine and feel you need to take it, do so until God heals you then stop the medicine.
Some people have the faith to not go to doctors or take medicine, that is fine as well but I don't agree with condemning those that go to the doctor.

I have had people tell me it is my fault I am not healed because I don't trust God. I simply say that if you felt the pain I go through you would know that you lean on God more then ever in these situations.

I will be praying and I understand the hurt and what you are feeling, just do as you feel led to do for your child. I will have prayer for him and for you right now

[RamboPreacher]

agreed with these folks, Penny - you do what you believe is correct for your family. ignore the others. I am continuing to pray for you and your family as mentioned in the prayer forum.

[Billy n NC]

I am about at the end of my rope today


I fully know and believe god can heal. I all so know the Lord has given dr's the know how to help people get better.

I just want my son better and fussing at his sister again.

I understand how you feel.

Will be praying for you and Joseph.

Give me a call tomorrow. I will tell you that you are doing the right thing.
That will mean more to you than what they said today because there is a lot more of me than anyone else you know.. LOL

[Marcy]

Wow, I have my feelings on this one. First of all, Penny, you are an advocate for your son, you do what you feel needs to be done and ignore others feelings. Let them judge and condem if they want to but don't let it get to you, ignore the ignorant people who say stupid things to try to encourage you.
I had an aunt who died at the age of 12. My grandfather was a minister and he believed in divine healing, would not take her to the doctor. My aunt suffered from an appendicitis and she died at home from this. This was completely preventable but my grandfather was stupid in his judgment. This incident tore my grandmother up and she did not live long after this event happened. Ironically, when my grandfather became ill in his latter years, (he lived to be 92), he had many trips to the doctor. I guess it was different since he was the one in pain.
My point is, you do what you feel is right, you are your childs voice, his care taker, his protector. Don't listen to people who condemn you, if they were in your shoes I guarantee they would not sit back and just watch their precious child suffer the way your child has had to suffer.
I am praying for your son right now for God to give him peace from all of this pain and suffering. I am praying for you as his mother to have peace and rest as well. God is able to do more than we even ask. You are a strong person having to deal with this ongoing situation. God Bless You.

[Mike Vande]

There will probably always be people that warped in there view of faith, at least until the Lord returns. If they live long enough, they will go through something similar to what you are going through. May God have more mercy on them than they've had on you.

[dolfan]

People who dare say such a thing to someone ought to be given the right and left uppercuts of mind-your-own-business-ship.

Penny, ask this person: What makes you sick? What physically, biologically happens in your body to make you sick? Of course, they'll probably give you a spiritualized answer to that question. Tell them, "You're dodging the question I asked. What makes you sick?" Refuse to accept any answer unless it is along the lines of infection, germs, viruses, genetics, conduct (smoking, overeating, etc.). Ask them to then explain that answer in the best medical terms they can. Just let them talk it out -- silently let them finish their answer and wait about 5 seconds after they're through talking before saying anything.

Then, ask them: Alright, what if you could stop that from happening -- would you do it? If they try to give you some answer on HOW they'd do it, tell them again -- "you're dodging the question". Repeat it: If you could stop that from happening would you do it? (Only an idiot would say no. If they do say no, then end the conversation with, "Well, you are an idiot.") When they say yes they would stop it if they could, tell them: "That's what I'm working on. And until you get a medical degree, you need to shut your mouth. I trust God. But you know what? He trusts ME! He gave me my son, you didn't. He put me in charge of his care, you didn't. So, I don't really care if you think I'm doing right. You're out of bounds and you need to step back and close your mouth. If you can't pray for me and my son to be well and for the doctors to help him, then do me a favor and forget about us."

That's my recommendation.

[Kenya]

Been there, done that. Penny, get caller id and just stay away from them. The argument isn't worth your time or energy. I actually changed jobs during my dad's illness and partly for that reason. Just got sick of hearing it.

If you can't avoid them, tell them to stick a sock in it.

[christian]

Penny tell them to mind their own business.

People like that are too stupid for their own good.[quote]

....and for anyone else's good.

[Dr. Ron]

You tell this idiot ....who ever it is....that I ....Dr. Ron said they are just too ignorant for words.

I don't get indignant often, but this is stupidity. Ask this person if they believe in their prayer so much that they will be responsible for your child in the event a death occurs.

This kind of ignorance, is why we get looked down on so much.

[Penny]

well I called this person (my dad) and told him we were home from the hosptial

good penny

YOU GOT TO BELIVE

let me tell you i am not in a nice mood, i got NO SLEEP at all last night due to the stuff that happen with Joseph (read in prayer area). I said dad I am going to go WE WILL NOT GO THERE RIGHT NOW.
said bye

[Penny]

i TRY TO keep everyone in the know on what going on with Jospeh, Someimes I wish I did not. I sent the email out that you see on the prayer area with the update and praise report on jospeh. I come to check mail and find a message from my dad.

Dear Daughter!!!
this is good news ,,but we should expect nothig less after all he has been annointed and prayed for and how he feels today has nothing to do with any of these doctors he has been touched by the great physican !!
And I think he don't need endoscopy all he needs is to be held up in pray and as his Grandfather I'm taking care of that!! penny please remember this when you face sickness in life ,,a little faith will do more than any thing you can but at CVS ..Faith alway's work there is no medicine that you can say that about !! I hope you will learn this lesson !1 you just need to believe GOD now I'm going fishing talk to you later you know it I love you ..
Daddy



My reply:

:0) Dad

He will be having the Endoscopy, There is to much going on in his body for me to not have it, Yes he is feeling better, yes he is having good days.. And Yes the Lord is at work.

As his mom it is my job to be sure his health stay in good and to be sure things are not getting worse. There is so many things all going on in side his body for me not to have that test. The Lord gave me both of my kids, and I feel this test is needed. It may be a waste of time and money to you, but it is not to me. I have been dealing with a child since April has lost over 35 lbs. and is staying at 95 lbs right now, he has not lost any more nor has he gained any. He is on 7 pills a day and 4 in inhaler puffs a day to treat all of the stomach issues going on in his body. A child since April has fusses and cried DAILY that his stomach is hurting. This 4 day that he has went with no pain is the longest he has went since April with out pain meds, and that is great and I am thankful for that.

Yes the Lord is at work, yes the drs have finally got the right amount of meds to help him, I fully believe it all works hand in hand. And yes the Lord is answering our prayers. That dose not mean I am going to sit back and take him off all theses meds, that dose not mean I will stop all his medical care.

Just because I am having this test and biopsy done is NOT SAYING I do not believe God is healing him. It is not saying I DO NOT HAVE FAITH in what God can do. I know what God can do.


Ok my freinds here am I over reacting??? I know you all will be honest. I do not geel I am but with me who knows...