Father chases nude boy from daughter's room

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » September 15th, 2008, 5:29 am

DaJudge wrote:
Sometimes violence is justified. If I caught a naked dude in my daughter's room, forced or not, he would be lucky to make it out without serious injuries.

Actually, let me amend what I said above. If it wasn't forced, he'd be lucky to make it out without serious injuries. If it WAS forced, he would not make it out alive.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 5:30 am

DaJudge wrote:As you say brother, if you ever do have a daughter, your whole outlook will change.

seriously my outlook is the same as yours, just as I mentioned in the previous post.

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » September 15th, 2008, 5:30 am

Honestly, I don't care about the law in this circumstance. The first law is the law of my house. You don't have sex with my daughter. That's the law. I'll answer to the other laws when people with superior firepower force the issue by my arrest and trial.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 5:31 am

DaJudge wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
Sometimes violence is justified. If I caught a naked dude in my daughter's room, forced or not, he would be lucky to make it out without serious injuries.

Actually, let me amend what I said above. If it wasn't forced, he'd be lucky to make it out without serious injuries. If it WAS forced, he would not make it out alive.

I agree there...

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 5:32 am

dolfan wrote:Honestly, I don't care about the law in this circumstance. The first law is the law of my house. You don't have sex with my daughter. That's the law. I'll answer to the other laws when people with superior firepower force the issue by my arrest and trial.

No I am curious how can his lawyer fight this, what is he looking at here?

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » September 15th, 2008, 5:35 am

Where I live, the guy might get charged by the police in a case like this (but probably not), but the grand jury would never indict him.

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » September 15th, 2008, 5:38 am

Okay:

1. Defense of crime victim. Chances are the daughter's underage to provide consent. Perhaps he didn't know that the kid was also underage when he started swinging. If he walked in and saw a naked backside, one he'd never seen before, and had already broken swing on him .... Maybe all he knew was that his daughter was doing something sexual, and he reserved his interrogation and factfinding for the point in time after he rescued his minor child from an apparent sexual assault. It goes to his intent in the matter. Subsequent swings may be harder to defend.

2. Heat of passion. Again, same facts, different legal theory. Recklessness, maybe, but not intentional battery. May be good for plea agreement.

3. Jury nullification: The old "he-had-it-comin'" defense. Just try the thing and dare the state to let a jury decide it. Get a daddy or two on the jury, hang it up.

Postby **Shellie** » September 15th, 2008, 6:00 am

He didn't know it wasn't a stranger raping his daughter. Daddy walks under Castle Law.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 8:18 am

Actually did he know did it say anywhere? Has he mentioned whether he was angry or that he thought his daughter could be in trouble?
I would think if he did it would have been a big part of the story:

"dad hits boy thinking his daughter was being raped"

It could have been , but who knows it dont seem that way and I am not going to promote that he should lie :lol:

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » September 15th, 2008, 9:45 am

I don't know the facts, either. Article didn't say. I'm reading into it some to formulate an answer for you. :lol:

Ultimately, he'll probably either enter a plea agreement or his lawyer will depend on the good, common sense of everyday people who sit in the wisest seats of all our democracy -- a jury of 12 -- and let them decide.

Pastor Bill · Postby **Pastor Bill** » September 15th, 2008, 9:58 am

It all comes down to lack of communication, as the father of a daughter, when she gets old enough to have a boyfriend, he'll know I own guns and know how to use them. Such "trespassing" will be doing so KNOWING the consequences.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 10:37 am

dolfan wrote:I don't know the facts, either. Article didn't say. I'm reading into it some to formulate an answer for you. Ultimately, he'll probably either enter a plea agreement or his lawyer will depend on the good, common sense of everyday people who sit in the wisest seats of all our democracy -- a jury of 12 -- and let them decide.

thanks for the response it was interesting :wink:

Postby **Shellie** » September 15th, 2008, 11:14 am

No, I wasn't meaning that he DID think that rape was happening. What I was meaning was that that could possibly be the argument that will get him off.

one love · Postby **one love** » September 15th, 2008, 11:19 am

Shellie wrote:No, I wasn't meaning that he DID think that rape was happening. What I was meaning was that that could possibly be the argument that will get him off.

Oh I know I understood I was just curious, it could be a defense that is for sure.

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » September 15th, 2008, 11:55 am

I would not be charged with assault....I would be charged with practicing medicine without a license.......sex change operation!!!!! :lol:

Jude 2