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Postby dbserv » September 18th, 2008, 10:30 am

one love wrote:I wonder why the same is not done about Obama his church was COGIC correct? they are pentecostal.




Actually, NO.

Obama's church

http://www.tucc

is part of the

http://www.ucc.org/

denomination.



I would offer a warning though. When I perused this site back in March, there were statements which I found very inflammatory and "RACIST" against white America.

I haven't checked since the whole Rev. Wright stuff hit the news. So, I don't know if the same content is still there or not. But, it wouldn't surprise me if it was.


They are DEFINITELY NOT COGIC and definitely NOT pentecostal. IMHO, UCC is one of the most LIBERAL non-evangelical denominations you will find.
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Postby one love » September 18th, 2008, 10:40 am

Got ya , for some reason I thought they were in COGIC not sure why I thought that...Did he ever attend there?

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Postby dbserv » September 18th, 2008, 11:22 am

one love wrote:Got ya , for some reason I thought they were in COGIC not sure why I thought that...Did he ever attend there?




Nope.


CoC

CoGiC

Similar.


Some newsperson may have said it wrong at some time, though.
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Postby INLOVE » September 18th, 2008, 11:29 am

Some of you are saying not to do anything, because it will fuel the fire. My question is, is that what we are supposed to do as Christians? Are we supposed to sit back and not say anything? That's the problem, a lot of Christians just let things go, because we live in America. We don't stand up and say that things such as being gay or having an abortion is wrong. We SHOULD be ruffling feathers and stand up for what is right. Just my humble opinion :)
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Postby one love » September 18th, 2008, 3:25 pm

INLOVE wrote:Some of you are saying not to do anything, because it will fuel the fire. My question is, is that what we are supposed to do as Christians? Are we supposed to sit back and not say anything? That's the problem, a lot of Christians just let things go, because we live in America. We don't stand up and say that things such as being gay or having an abortion is wrong. We SHOULD be ruffling feathers and stand up for what is right. Just my humble opinion :)


I Dont think that was ever said. I believe I and the other poster was just implying what would be the result. We I even said if you feel led to do so complain, I admire all that do. Whether Or not I will or not I dont know but it angers me.

If you disagree with a radio talk show host and email them and complain sometimes they will announce

"here is a email from joe blow at joeblow@yahoo.com that says"

then you get 10,000 emails back :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Jennifer Smith » September 18th, 2008, 3:37 pm

one love wrote:
I Dont think that was ever said. I believe I and the other poster was just implying what would be the result. We I even said if you feel led to do so complain, I admire all that do. Whether Or not I will or not I dont know but it angers me.



Writing a letter to the editor of a newspaper is usually different than emailing or calling a radio show. Newspapers want to know what is considered offensive and over-the-top, because it affects their sales, readership, etc. Even if the paper is a liberal rag. Those letters to the editor get published, and add to a consensus that the cartoon is offensive. If a person is not a tongue-speaking believer, they might easily overlook the fact that to many of us, it is something sacred. That is why speaking up helps. It doesn't matter if we think we will always be "heard" or agreed with. There is a time and a place to take a stand for what is right,

especially if you feel strongly about it.
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Postby Jamais Vu » September 18th, 2008, 4:36 pm

INLOVE wrote:Some of you are saying not to do anything, because it will fuel the fire. My question is, is that what we are supposed to do as Christians? Are we supposed to sit back and not say anything? That's the problem, a lot of Christians just let things go, because we live in America. We don't stand up and say that things such as being gay or having an abortion is wrong. We SHOULD be ruffling feathers and stand up for what is right. Just my humble opinion :)


No one said not to do anything.......you are taking my response out of context since i dont fully agree with your viewpoint. Your question is loaded because NO ONE said what you quoted. You came to that false conclusion all on your own.

Who is letting things go? Who is not standing up and saying abortion and homosexuality is wrong? A wise, thoughtful response on a personal level will go a lot further than a knee-jerk unthoughtful generalized whiny complaint. Although i am curious to how many gay people you can minister to by standing up and getting in their face about how they are going to hell.

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Postby INLOVE » September 18th, 2008, 4:47 pm

Jamais Vu wrote:
INLOVE wrote:Some of you are saying not to do anything, because it will fuel the fire. My question is, is that what we are supposed to do as Christians? Are we supposed to sit back and not say anything? That's the problem, a lot of Christians just let things go, because we live in America. We don't stand up and say that things such as being gay or having an abortion is wrong. We SHOULD be ruffling feathers and stand up for what is right. Just my humble opinion :)


No one said not to do anything.......you are taking my response out of context since i dont fully agree with your viewpoint. Your question is loaded because NO ONE said what you quoted. You came to that false conclusion all on your own.

Who is letting things go? Who is not standing up and saying abortion and homosexuality is wrong? A wise, thoughtful response on a personal level will go a lot further than a knee-jerk unthoughtful generalized whiny complaint. Although i am curious to how many gay people you can minister to by standing up and getting in their face about how they are going to hell.


Step down from your high horse, when I was talking gays and abortion, I was talking about Christians in general. I don't see enough Christians standing up and saying that these things are wrong. I never said to get in gays faces and tell them they are going to hell (you wrote that, not me).
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Postby Jamais Vu » September 18th, 2008, 7:07 pm

Step down from your high horse, when I was talking gays and abortion, I was talking about Christians in general. I don't see enough Christians standing up and saying that these things are wrong. I never said to get in gays faces and tell them they are going to hell (you wrote that, not me).


How else are you going to ruffle a homosexual's feathers then?...maybe comment on their poor taste in italian shoes? That is what YOU wrote. You could even draw up a comic of you making fun of a gay man's shoes and send it to the newspaper. Boy that would show 'em!

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Postby INLOVE » September 19th, 2008, 2:00 am

Jamais Vu wrote:
Step down from your high horse, when I was talking gays and abortion, I was talking about Christians in general. I don't see enough Christians standing up and saying that these things are wrong. I never said to get in gays faces and tell them they are going to hell (you wrote that, not me).


How else are you going to ruffle a homosexual's feathers then?...maybe comment on their poor taste in italian shoes? That is what YOU wrote. You could even draw up a comic of you making fun of a gay man's shoes and send it to the newspaper. Boy that would show 'em!


What I am talking about that as Christians we need to stand up and say when something is wrong. I don't see that much anymore. I see more Christians not considering the moral issue in an election and voting more on what is in their pockets in the end. That is just one example. I am just saying that we need to quick overlooking these things. I have friends who are gay, and they know I do not agree with their lifestyle. Yet I still try to show the love of Christ.
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