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This is just disgusting

Postby one love » September 19th, 2008, 3:56 am

Officers checking the home of Debra Chappell and James Seevers in Leesburg found the couple and a 2-year-old living in the home described as not being fit for animals.
The police report about the house reads like a horror novel, Local 6 reported.
The report described thousands of cockroaches swarming inside the structure. An officer wrote that he had to jump back when he opened a refrigerator because of the number of "roaches that rained down on him."
Roaches were also inside the cupboards and crawling all over the child in her crib.
Photographs showed soiled diapers, clothes and other items covering the home.
There was no ventilation inside the home, only two fans.
The police report said that a sickly smell surrounded the outside of the structure.
Local 6 showed inside images of a sink full of dirty dishes and a floor so covered in debris that the officers said they could barely walk through the home.
The 2-year-old was removed from the home and her parents, Chappell and Seevers, were taken into custody.
It is believed that the family had only lived in the home for about four months.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


http://www.local6.com/news/17500032/detail.html


Go to the site and watch the video and look at the pictures....man this is awful.

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Postby EagerBeaver » September 19th, 2008, 6:24 am

Saw that on Drudge Report this morning and was shocked MacUser didn't post it first.
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Postby Ilovebigcats » September 19th, 2008, 6:53 am

pics.. http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/17 ... etail.html

Can I play devils advocate for a second?

First of all... that is absurd to say that is a sink full of dirty dishes and use that as ONE of the excuses to remove a child! Good grief! You should see my sink!!! :shock:

Second of all... they JUST moved in 4 months ago. That refrigerator looked clean and had what appears to be up to date food. The roaches looked like a place we use to live in Murfreesboro. When you are desperate for a place to live you will take what you can afford versus being homeless which was very much our case when we moved into a trailed in Murfreesboro. We moved in and it was clean and neat. After living there and the cooler weather came (much like it is now) then water bugs took over. You could hit the kitchen counters and they would swarm out from under it. We sprayed. The landlord sprayed. Nothing. If you went into the kitchen at night and open the cabinet for a cup they would scatter. There was absolutely NOTHING that we could do about it. They were inside the guts of the warm refrigerator and if the seal was cracked anywhere they escaped through the gap. I am sure the walls, basement, cabinets, and EVERYTHING was infested... though on the surface our place looked clean. So... that fridge looks good, other than it looks like a fresh batch of bugs arrived.

The laundry on the floor... if they are as poor as they appear in the images.. they probably don't have a washer and dryer and who can afford the laundromat right now if you are broke? The toys in the floor looked clean. It was just disorganized and messy. My laundry can look overwhelming at times.

And frankly, if you walked in my house right now you might think we stunk. Ben just took a poo, the litter box needs to be dumped and our dishes are dirty. All it takes is one diaper to rock the good scent of a home. Ben always waits until someone is fixing to knock on the door to drop a smelly number two.

Cobwebs in the window... PLEASE! :roll:

The boxes, no sheets, clothes everywhere... they seem to be a poor family working to survive. They just moved in a few months ago. I have lived here a year and I still have about 30 unpacked boxes because I don't plan to stay here!

And the tub.. yeah... that was NASTY! I have been in a few rental properties where my kids did NOT take baths. They showered or I washed them in the sink! Gross! There is nothing that can be done about being desperate for a home and then finding a cheap loser landlord. You can't tell me that tub got like that in just 4 months. No way!

Okay.. now you can attack me! :lol:
I'm just saying... based solely on those pics... leave the kid alone!

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Postby dolfan » September 19th, 2008, 8:55 am

I saw enough. Look, dirty houses are just that -- dirty houses. Some are unkempt, untidy, some are a little worse (ever seen Clean House?). Some are unhealthy, nasty and plain old dangerous to little kids. If it were adults living there without a helpless child, live and let live. With a child, uh-uh. Kids in that situation are like prisoners, no voice, no choice. Someone has to act to protect them from dangers that their parents won't, or worse, from dangers their parents create or allow.

The backstory here is probably one of serious mental illness by the parents. Few people are actually just hard-out, plain-old everyday sorry enough to keep their kid in that circumstance without seeking some kind of welfare assistance. The story didn't mention any (did it? I quit about 80% through it --- if it did, they should've mentioned it earlier -- it is that important a detail). And, that's a key to remember: if the parents are able to straighten up, they will get their child back. The state will help them do that. But, if they are low functioning enough that they can't prevent this kind of thing, then the welfare of the child has to come first. If the kid grows up and then decides to live that way, God bless America, land of the free. Until then, the kid has rights not to be held hostage by his parents and exposed to that squalor without legal review of it.
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Postby one love » September 20th, 2008, 5:20 am

dolfan wrote:I saw enough. Look, dirty houses are just that -- dirty houses. Some are unkempt, untidy, some are a little worse (ever seen Clean House?). Some are unhealthy, nasty and plain old dangerous to little kids. If it were adults living there without a helpless child, live and let live. With a child, uh-uh. Kids in that situation are like prisoners, no voice, no choice. Someone has to act to protect them from dangers that their parents won't, or worse, from dangers their parents create or allow.

The backstory here is probably one of serious mental illness by the parents. Few people are actually just hard-out, plain-old everyday sorry enough to keep their kid in that circumstance without seeking some kind of welfare assistance. The story didn't mention any (did it? I quit about 80% through it --- if it did, they should've mentioned it earlier -- it is that important a detail). And, that's a key to remember: if the parents are able to straighten up, they will get their child back. The state will help them do that. But, if they are low functioning enough that they can't prevent this kind of thing, then the welfare of the child has to come first. If the kid grows up and then decides to live that way, God bless America, land of the free. Until then, the kid has rights not to be held hostage by his parents and exposed to that squalor without legal review of it.



Dolfan I just want to say AMEN!!!! You always seem to make great post regarding real life situations. Here is the deal if they are poor that does not mean they cant clean there house some. Second if they are so poor they can not help themselves there is welfare and section eight housing. I am aware many section eight homes are in the ghetto but they have to meet a standard my old boss used to have 2 he rented out.
I think you are correct there most likely is some kinda mental health issue here.

It reminded me of a house in Chesapeake Va across from my Grandparents. The yard always looked awful and disgusting so my Granddad would go out there and cut there grass on the outside of their fence and trim the bushes because it would bother him.

They would see rats going from the trees to the roof of the house.
Later the state found out what was going on in the house and was going to condemn it I believe. The people called the news trying to help them and when they went inside they had to leave and come back in suits covered head to toe. It was disgusting with huge rats running all through the house.
They had to place the people in a hotel and they went in and bombed it with rat poison and were carrying out bags and bags of rats. The man was feeding them as pets :shock:
Few days later they saw the man pull up in his car throwing bread all around the house, why? To try to get his rats to come back. It was the most nasty house I have ever seen.
They condemned the house and sold it, then built a brand new home.

Kids are innocent and deserve to be healthy and have the chance to not catch diseases from that filth.
They can get the kids back if they just do as they are asked and clean up, if they need assistance they can get it.

The landlord would be responsible to have the place meet health code standards before he rents the house , if he did not then he has some fault.

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Postby Jennifer Smith » September 20th, 2008, 5:29 am

I agree and I believe that intervention is needed when we see a family in a situation where they are being destructive to their own well-being and that of the child.
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Postby Jennifer Smith » September 20th, 2008, 6:10 am

cats, I just read your post and I can see where you're coming from as well..
it sounds as though this is much worse though than any sane person would allow... from the pics it was hard to tell... but leaving diapers laying around on the floor, pretty gross!
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Postby HarmlessDove » September 20th, 2008, 12:08 pm

Allowing roaches to cover your child in the crib is gross as well. If I had to hold my child all day and sleep with them to make sure such didn't occur, then I would. That is just disgusting.
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clarification

Postby Full Quiver » September 20th, 2008, 5:30 pm

Allow me to point out that Wendy and I have NEVER lived in such conditions.
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Re: clarification

Postby rough_rider » September 20th, 2008, 5:47 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Allow me to point out that Wendy and I have NEVER lived in such conditions.
Thanks for clearing that up, Wen had me thinking..... :P :wink:
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