OJ Simpson

[Shellie]

Pastorables wrote:

There is absolutely no way that O.J. could have received a fair trial.

That's okay. Nicole didn't receive a fair one either.

[EagerBeaver]

Pastorables wrote:

There is absolutely no way that O.J. could have received a fair trial.

That's okay. Nicole didn't receive a fair one either.

In the words of Todd Bentley,

BAM!

[DaJudge]

Vande, I wasn't talking about sin, I was talking about a violation of the law.

You don't think violations of the law are also sin?

Often they are. Some I don't think are, such as speeding/parking tickets, failing to wear a motorcycle helmet or seat belt. Others involving "moral turpitude" clearly are sins. Theft, murder, assaults, etc. Some things that are sins aren't against the law. Lying, adultery, etc.

But that's not really the point here. I was talking about laws that OJ violated. Murder and Armed Robbery to be specific. He deserves, under the law to serve every day of the remainder of his life in jail under the law. He can be forgiven by God just like anyone else. But methinks the State of Nevada ain't gonna be quite as generous.

[soulsearcher]

In the words of Todd Bentley,


BAM!

"BAM!" is the word of Emeril Lagasse as far as I'm concerned, since he's the one who made it famous.

Now, if you had said, "In the words of Todd Bentley, SHAM! - - or SCAM!" I might have related.

[Brian]

Vande, I wasn't talking about sin, I was talking about a violation of the law.

You don't think violations of the law are also sin?

Often they are. Some I don't think are, such as speeding/parking tickets, failing to wear a motorcycle helmet or seat belt. Others involving "moral turpitude" clearly are sins. Theft, murder, assaults, etc. Some things that are sins aren't against the law. Lying, adultery, etc.

But that's not really the point here. I was talking about laws that OJ violated. Murder and Armed Robbery to be specific. He deserves, under the law to serve every day of the remainder of his life in jail under the law. He can be forgiven by God just like anyone else. But methinks the State of Nevada ain't gonna be quite as generous.

From O' Brother Where Art Thou:

Pete: The Preacher said it absolved us.
Everett: For him, not for the law. I'm surprised at you, Pete, I gave you credit for more brains than Delmar.
Delmar: But they was witnesses that seen us redeemed.
Everett: That's not the issue Delmar. Even if that did put you square with the Lord, the State of Mississippi's (Nevada) a little more hard-nosed.

One of my favoite movies!

[dolfan]

I wondered if he could receive a fair trial. But, here's the deal -- OJ Simpson is an icon, a pariah, but an icon. No one (white) who remembers that trial is going to have any different opinion but that he was probably guilty. That outcome in that case -- and in the civil case -- had a direct bearing on his motives in this case. The connection was not just psychological. It was relevant in this case. There's almost no one in the country who cannot harbor some feelings about the extent of justice in the old case. I don't know, though, how much those feelings were allowed to color jurors' jobs in this one. This is one that has some very interesting possibilities on appeal, and it wouldn't shock me to see a new trial ordered. For one, there were no black people on the jury. That, with the admitted bias by the jurors, leads me to think this case may not be over. Then again, the judge in the case may have perfectly followed the law and properly exercised every discretion at his disposal. I don't know. I didn't really keep up with it this time.

[Mike Vande]

Often they are. Some I don't think are, such as speeding/parking tickets, failing to wear a motorcycle helmet or seat belt.

I think the Bible instructs us to submit to the authority over us unless that authority contradicts the teachings of God. Acting like you are a law unto yourself in matters like traffic regulations, etc., kinda makes things like that a sin, doesn't it?

Others involving "moral turpitude" clearly are sins. Theft, murder, assaults, etc.

No argument there.

Some things that are sins aren't against the law. Lying, adultery, etc.

Well, they aren't illegal now, but then a lot of things that used be illegal aren't any more...

[DaJudge]

I think the Bible instructs us to submit to the authority over us unless that authority contradicts the teachings of God. Acting like you are a law unto yourself in matters like traffic regulations, etc., kinda makes things like that a sin, doesn't it?

Yep. That's why I paid the tickets. That's why OJ is gonna rot in jail. Thanks for bringing this discussion back around to my original point Vande.

[Mike Vande]

I think the Bible instructs us to submit to the authority over us unless that authority contradicts the teachings of God. Acting like you are a law unto yourself in matters like traffic regulations, etc., kinda makes things like that a sin, doesn't it?

Yep. That's why I paid the tickets. That's why OJ is gonna rot in jail. Thanks for bringing this discussion back around to my original point Vande.

You must be a pretty good lawyer. You affirmed that breaking the law was a sin without admitting you said it wasn't a sin. Puts me in mind of gnats and camels...

[DaJudge]

Take one of your happy pills and lie down, Vande.

[Mike Vande]

Take one of your happy pills and lie down, Vande.

Already took my dose for the day, Judge. Seems like you might need to join me?

[DaJudge]

Take one of your happy pills and lie down, Vande.

Already took my dose for the day, Judge. Seems like you might need to join me?

I'll pass.

[Mike Vande]

I'll pass.

Yes, well, I hope you'll pass in a way that is both a legal and moral...

[DaJudge]

I'll pass.

Yes, well, I hope you'll pass in a way that is both a legal and moral...

Sheeesh, and YOU like to call people on the carpet for being judgmental. Talk about sanctimonious.

[Mike Vande]

Sheeesh, and YOU like to call people on the carpet for being judgmental. Talk about sanctimonious.

Pardon me Judge, did I hit a nerve or something? I thought we were kidding around...or was that remark about my "happy pills" a real shot, and not a joke?