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A wasted vote...

Postby Steve » October 12th, 2008, 2:24 am

What do you think? Has McCain lost?

Chuck Baldwin wrote:A Wasted Vote
by Chuck Baldwin
October 10, 2008


When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.

In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan. In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out:

BALDWIN '08

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

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Way I see it

Postby crispfin » October 12th, 2008, 6:09 am

I don't know if McCain has definitely lost, but the chances of him winning are slipping away, and right now I'm pretty sure Obama will be our next president. As for what this dude says about voting on principle, I agree that we should vote on principle. If a vote for McCain or Obama is a violation of one's conscience, then I believe one should choose someone else. Some say that's naive, and they might be right, but I'm not quite cynical enough to dismiss things like that. I don't see it as an impotent act of protest. You have to do what you feel is right in your heart when you vote. At least that's my view.

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You omitted one line...

Postby Pastor Gary » October 12th, 2008, 7:28 am

You omitted one line..
"I am Barrack Obama, and I approve of this message."
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)

"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous;
you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)

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Re: You omitted one line...

Postby crispfin » October 12th, 2008, 8:54 am

Pastor Gary wrote:You omitted one line..
"I am Barrack Obama, and I approve of this message."

I'd like to think if I was Barack Obama I could spell my own name.

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Postby jinjer » October 12th, 2008, 11:24 am

That's what they want you to think!!!

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Re: You omitted one line...

Postby Gerald Creasy » October 12th, 2008, 2:05 pm

crispfinagin wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:You omitted one line..
"I am Barrack Obama, and I approve of this message."

I'd like to think if I was Barack Obama I could spell my own name.


But if you were Joe Biden, could you write your own papers?

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Re: You omitted one line...

Postby crispfin » October 12th, 2008, 2:50 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
crispfinagin wrote:
Pastor Gary wrote:You omitted one line..
"I am Barrack Obama, and I approve of this message."

I'd like to think if I was Barack Obama I could spell my own name.


But if you were Joe Biden, could you write your own papers?

Perhaps, but I'd actually rather be neither. I kinda like being myself. :mrgreen:

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A wasted vote....

Postby Dr. Ron » October 13th, 2008, 6:46 am

Notice the polls today??? We are coming back.....and we will win.....McCain that is.......!!!!!
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Re: A wasted vote....

Postby EagerBeaver » October 13th, 2008, 7:35 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Notice the polls today??? We are coming back.....and we will win.....McCain that is.......!!!!!


:?: :?: :?:

This from a guy who has repeatedly said "Don't pay any attention to the polls" :roll:
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a wasted vote....

Postby Dr. Ron » October 13th, 2008, 9:02 am

Beav........that was exactly my point.

This thread was predicated on the fact that the "polls" show OZero in the lead....and the question was posed..."Has McCain already lost...? Then the writer opined that he believed that OZero would win....

I was pointing out that the "polls" are not what decides elections.....voters are....and the voters will turn out....
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Re: a wasted vote....

Postby EagerBeaver » October 13th, 2008, 9:05 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Beav........that was exactly my point.

This thread was predicated on the fact that the "polls" show OZero in the lead....and the question was posed..."Has McCain already lost...? Then the writer opined that he believed that OZero would win....

I was pointing out that the "polls" are not what decides elections.....voters are....and the voters will turn out....


Gotcha. I misread.

At any rate even though I don't think Obama has it locked up, I do still think that McCain still needs somewhat of a miracle to pull off the upset.
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a wasted vote....

Postby Dr. Ron » October 13th, 2008, 9:29 am

The miracle will be the same one W had in 04 when the voters turn up at the polls and people vote because they can't stomach liberalism.

It has been pointed out that if all the Christians and anti abortionists vote, McCain will win by a landslide.

All we have to do is make sure we get them out and I believe they will be there. MOst of the polls are lopsided anyway......but that is my usual rant.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » October 13th, 2008, 10:48 am

Anyone remember When Reagan whipped Carter??????????

Do you know AT THIS TIME in Reagans campaign he was FURTHER BEHIND CARTER than MCCAIN is behind OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby soulsearcher » October 13th, 2008, 10:49 am

To the orginal post I say, "Hogwash." That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Postby deb » October 13th, 2008, 11:30 am

Yeah...my mind is made up - don't confuse me with the "facts"!


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