A: "Joe the Plumber" - Q: Who took down O's campai

rjjunior · Postby **rjjunior** » October 14th, 2008, 11:36 am

Three weeks from now this guy will go down in history as the guy who took down Obama's presidency. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Joe the Plumber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuqV7N_bj0

In his own words, Obama spouts socialism. DOH!

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » October 14th, 2008, 11:38 am

Boy you are sooooooooo right.....this was the one we needed. If people don't hear this one.....they are too stupid to know what in the world is going on....

soulsearcher · Postby **soulsearcher** » October 14th, 2008, 1:12 pm

Dr. Ron wrote:Boy you are sooooooooo right.....this was the one we needed. If people don't hear this one.....they are too stupid to know what in the world is going on....

Which we know for a fact that they are. I repeat, it doesn't seem to matter what wrong is revealed - and proven - about Obama, tens of millions of people have drunk the Kool-Aid and are now ready to become human sacrifices for this man to be elected President.

BTW, in his interview with O'Reilly, he made the same statement (O'Reilly got him to say it... "spread the wealth.")

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » October 14th, 2008, 6:24 pm

I do hope this gets out to people though.

KB

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » October 14th, 2008, 6:32 pm

Borderline communism. Incredible.

And this is the change people want?

Poimen · Postby **Poimen** » October 14th, 2008, 8:37 pm

I hear ya, and agree. But let's not overlook the socialist implications behind the "bail out" which McCain likewise supported. :wink:

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » October 15th, 2008, 11:53 am

Poimen wrote:I hear ya, and agree. But let's not overlook the socialist implications behind the "bail out" which McCain likewise supported.

And Chuck Baldwin's gonna win in '08!

INLOVE · Postby **INLOVE** » October 15th, 2008, 12:00 pm

Rush Limbaugh was talking about this guy today.

RamboPreacher · Postby **RamboPreacher** » October 15th, 2008, 12:02 pm

zero - c0mmunism in everything but name. a rose is a rose...

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » October 15th, 2008, 7:19 pm

Joe the Plumber was the highlight of the debate. If McCain wins he needs to get this guy to be the White House plumber.

KB

dawgs10 · Postby **dawgs10** » October 16th, 2008, 12:47 am

joe the plumber is either charging way to much or hes the only drano man in town.

one love · Postby **one love** » October 16th, 2008, 2:23 am

dawgs10 wrote:joe the plumber is either charging way to much or hes the only drano man in town.

Not if he is self employed/self proprietor 250k would not be much buisness. Then if he has to pay a few employees out of that same pot and some materials, he really does not make much. Has this been considered when looking at a small buisness. People that do not write themselves a check and take out taxes but rather use that acount and pay taxes on it after his right offs. It would say the buisness did 250k and being a self proprietor it would look as if he made that much.
This is a BIG point not many are looking at. Almost ALL small buisness's will have their taxes increased.

Now he could pay his self a high salary like that if he runs 10 crews a day, which is still a small business and it will cause lay offs I don't think that is the case since he is a plumber that is buying this company(if I understood correctly). Either or we are going to get hit hard.
Not to mention he is rolling back Bush tax cuts which is RAISING taxes.

one love · Postby **one love** » October 16th, 2008, 2:38 am

Just as a note cutting taxes for the middle class is not going to help the middle class, lower class or the rich. It is a welfare deal and it will cause many more to lose jobs. So hey here is a few hundred dollars, hope it helps while unemployed.
The worst we have been through is the last two years, I am so glad McCain Finally said "the democrats have run the house and senate for two years and things have got much worse" Funny no reply to that :roll:

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » October 16th, 2008, 3:56 am

Exactly One love.
Attacking small businesses like these will sink the economy for sure and will create another expensive loophole for creative accountants to workaround. More red tape, more regulations, more wealth transfer to no where and for no results.

This whole class envy situation is out of hand. I say FLAT TAX. Stop all the unnecessary entitlements period to people whom pay no taxes. Then each will pay according to what they make. How much more fair could that be?

Listen to Joe:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... umber.html

Btw.. I'm voting for anybody that will kill ethanol. That stuff stinks in all my machines.

one love · Postby **one love** » October 16th, 2008, 4:16 am

MacUser wrote:Exactly One love.
Attacking small businesses like these will sink the economy for sure and will create another expensive loophole for creative accountants to workaround. More red tape, more regulations, more wealth transfer to no where and for no results.

This whole class envy situation is out of hand. I say FLAT TAX. Stop all the unnecessary entitlements period to people whom pay no taxes. Then each will pay according to what they make. How much more fair could that be?

Listen to Joe:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... umber.html

Btw.. I'm voting for anybody that will kill ethanol. That stuff stinks in all my machines.

Fairtax would solve the problem all the way around. No more taxing others more and some less. You pay on what you buy and nobody has loopholes and every one legal or illegal pay taxes. End the IRS completely. Cost go down, more jobs and higher wages. Cheaper products etc. Not to mention it would save Social security. All this and they will not promote it, I wish McCain would have it could have helped.
Just imagine how much a small business would save or a large business. If he wanted to fix it that is what they would offer. I liked Huckabee for that Reason (which he has a new TV show on Fox news)

Jude 2