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Postby MacUser » October 16th, 2008, 4:26 am

Penny wrote:As far as faith-- I Know of many pentecostal people who are white and they are voting for Obama.
I know of 5 cog who will be voting for obama
COGOP - I know of 12 right now who will be voting for obama..
Of all these people, None are voting due to skin color.


Show these Faith Based People Obama's Radical Abortion Stance

Obama's Abortion Extremism
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewa ... emism_.xml

This has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with character and personal views. Do we want this kind of CHANGE?
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Postby Penny » October 16th, 2008, 8:20 am

I ask my co-workers why they were voting for Obama.

They said he is the lesser of the 2 evils. Most could not give me a reason WHY they was going to vote for him. Other than Vickie who said God told her Obama would win and so she is going to vote for him

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Postby MacUser » October 16th, 2008, 10:01 am

Penny wrote:I ask my co-workers why they were voting for Obama.

They said he is the lesser of the 2 evils. Most could not give me a reason WHY they was going to vote for him. Other than Vickie who said God told her Obama would win and so she is going to vote for him


Show them my link above. Then if they still claim to be Christian and care nothing about killing the most defenseless among us... Don't worry as they have already digested the worlds cool-aid.

If they ask anymore you opinion.. keep coming back to this point over and over until they really become aware. This issue can't be blown off.
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Postby Full Quiver » October 16th, 2008, 10:06 am

I am glad to hear MCCain say what he did about ethanol. We should not be subsidizing corn for ethanol use. It has driven up the cost.
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Postby one love » October 16th, 2008, 10:54 am

MACUSER you are so right. I am amazed at how many "Christians" feel abortion is ok in ANY circumstance. Yes most people I know that are in this "Obama is hip garbage" and do not serve the lord, always ask me the same thing.

"would you tell your wife you did not want her to get a abortion if she was raped"


Now that is a horrible thought to think of but absolutely NO I would not accept her getting an abortion. If we could not handle raising a child from that , there are plenty that would love to have that baby. I always say you could bring something good out of a horrible situation. Matter of fact some will pay for your housing expenses, groceries, doctors and spending money the entire pregnancy to allow them to adopt that baby.
We can not ignore the EVIL act of killing a innocent baby.


On another note Ethanol is a joke. Sorry to all the farmers making a very good living on this but it is counterproductive. It does raise cost and is not very efficient or good for your cars. They lie their way through the primaries so they don't upset the first few states that produce the ethanol/crops for it :evil:

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Postby sweetpea » October 16th, 2008, 11:03 am

I always hate to see corn growing everywhere you go in the delta.it seems like we are hedged in and can't see anything else.

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Postby Penny » October 17th, 2008, 12:27 am

MacUser wrote:
Penny wrote:As far as faith-- I Know of many pentecostal people who are white and they are voting for Obama.
I know of 5 cog who will be voting for obama
COGOP - I know of 12 right now who will be voting for obama..
Of all these people, None are voting due to skin color.


Show these Faith Based People Obama's Radical Abortion Stance

Obama's Abortion Extremism
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewa ... emism_.xml

This has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with character and personal views. Do we want this kind of CHANGE?


I sent this to a few of my co-workers who I know email address to:

Both were very shocked that I sent this to them. Not b/c of what it said. They both ARE fully aware of his stand on abortion, they told me so.

Penny- you cannot just pick one issue and say the man is bad. You of all people should know better

I bet today will be a fun day at work.. :roll:

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Postby Jennifer Smith » October 17th, 2008, 1:40 am

RamboPreacher wrote:I have heard of some "Christians" say they are voting for zero. on some occasions they say it's about money, and that spreading the wealth is more "fair"! :roll: :shock:

however, there are those who are voting for him, that I have have heard from their own mouths that they are voting for him to help usher in the great tribulation and end times so that Christ will return more quickly! :roll: :shock:

on other occasions, I have asked about policies and references abortions and they flat out denied that they believed that 0bama "supported" abortions! and couldn't say why they didn't want McCain, other than "he's old" :shock: :roll:

interesting. no "logical" (in my opinion) reasons from any Christian that I have asked about it.


That is just amazing. I can't believe the ways people are making up their minds on this, it is as though they have no sense.
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Postby MacUser » October 17th, 2008, 3:13 am

Penny wrote:I sent this to a few of my co-workers who I know email address to:

Both were very shocked that I sent this to them. Not b/c of what it said. They both ARE fully aware of his stand on abortion, they told me so.

Penny- you cannot just pick one issue and say the man is bad. You of all people should know better

I bet today will be a fun day at work.. :roll:


Penny,
You CAN pick single issues and press them especially if the voters have any core Christian principle values. Ultimately people vote there VALUES... and If they don't it will become instantly obvious. You can do it in a loving chastening way also. Lean on your values heavy when making your case.

Don't back down from this core principle. If Obama isn't willing to protect the most innocent of us.. how can we expect him to do any different toward us? He voted several times to not give medical attention to born alive aborted babies. Said it was against the mothers abortion intent. I guess that vote wasn't against his pay grade?

This election, if anything, is a vote Against such as this.. rather than a vote for a specific candidate. (Of coarse this is just one of many issues. ) Obama really wants to CHANGE America and can we Christians afford this type of change?
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Postby KBevangelist » October 17th, 2008, 5:18 am

Obama is just plain scary.

"Spread the wealth around." That is clearly rewarding laziness with money that is rightfully yours or mine for hard work. That is not what this country is built on.

I think we are going to be pleasantly surprised come election day. I know many are praying and we cannot stop.

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Postby rjjunior » October 17th, 2008, 7:18 am

Penny wrote:Penny- you cannot just pick one issue and say the man is bad. You of all people should know better

I bet today will be a fun day at work.. :roll:


Penny, may I suggest asking them their definition of sin and compare that to Obama.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/08/obama-the-postm.html

He doesn't believe in absolutes at all. To him, sin is "being out of alignment with his values." Well, that's a load off of Osama bin Laden. He's not out of alignment when he promotes terrorism.

We need a president who at least knows what evil is.

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Postby Penny » October 20th, 2008, 10:16 am

OVERVIEW of my work today

Sometimes It may be best just to say I refuse to listen to anything anymore.

for the most part all fully agree that obama dose not know who God is nor dose he want to.

They know his stand on abortion

They then turn it and ask-

Do we want 4 more years like the last 4? With gas going up,
With the war still going on (we should not be there you know)
That if McCain gets in we are asking for things to get no better- We are asking for the same thing, and NO he is not Bush but he is in the same party Bush is so he supports the same values.

:) ANYONE want to come visit me at work.. I will be so glad when this is over.

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Postby MacUser » October 20th, 2008, 10:38 am

Ask them what if Obama gets in and we're no better. What then? What record do they have that shows Obama will be better? Obama has 143 days of Senate Experience. We have no record of whom he is.

√ - You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.

√ - You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.

√ - You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

√ - You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after 143 days of experience.

√ - You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World .... 143 days.


Remember, McCain isn't George Bush, Sara Palin isn't Dick Cheney.

They have a different plan than current admin and it doesn't include killing babies in the womb. Or not offering them protection if they survive the abortion attempt and become a living breathing gift from God.
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Postby Who new » October 20th, 2008, 11:58 am

I just voted for Obama in early voting here in Colorado. I'm neither delusional nor an idiot. I read The Audacity of Hope so as to get to know him. I agree with him. His experience as a professor of constitutional law for ten years, as well as his level headed judgement, have convinced me he's who I want. So kick me out of your church if you don't like it. No wait, too late, y'all already did that.

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Postby MacUser » October 20th, 2008, 5:58 pm

Who new wrote:I just voted for Obama in early voting here in Colorado. I'm neither delusional nor an idiot.



People typically vote their core values. My point proven right here. Obama overall represents Who new's values and proudly voted for him.

Brother I still love you... but disagree with your choice of change.

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