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Postby pastorables » October 21st, 2008, 6:07 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
pastorables wrote:Again, those who know me are cognizant of the truth.

Be blessed,
pa


And what is that truth but what you have told me?

I am blind (your words) because I don't believe what has been revealed TO YOU by your spirituality (your claim).

How then am I NOT cognizant of the truth?


I'm talking about the truth of my character concerning the fact that I would never believe myself to be above you spiritually. Your spirituality is between yourself and God alone.

Show me where I said that you are blind so I may view it in context of my thoughts that I might respond accordingly. I think you have placed your interpretation upon something I've said.

It's obvious that we disagree on many things concerning the end times. I believe that I'm right, you believe that you're right. We both could be wrong. :)

You have asked for me to share my beliefs. I can't in this forum due to the length of type that would be involved. One of these days, I would be glad to sit down and discuss my views with you in person. You still wouldn't agree because you see most of the Revelation as symbolic. I see symbolism in the Revelation also. Who then determines which symbolism is correct? :)

My biggest concern in discussing eschatology with you is concerning what determines a level debate table? We both possess strong convictions concerning the interpretation of God's word. Who determines the correct interpretation? You may pull from a concordance and I may pull from a lexicon with contrary views, etc.

Blessings,
pa
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Gerald Creasy

Postby Gerald Creasy » October 22nd, 2008, 2:56 am

pastorables wrote:I'm talking about the truth of my character concerning the fact that I would never believe myself to be above you spiritually. Your spirituality is between yourself and God alone.

Show me where I said that you are blind so I may view it in context of my thoughts that I might respond accordingly. I think you have placed your interpretation upon something I've said.

It's obvious that we disagree on many things concerning the end times. I believe that I'm right, you believe that you're right. We both could be wrong. :)

You have asked for me to share my beliefs. I can't in this forum due to the length of type that would be involved. One of these days, I would be glad to sit down and discuss my views with you in person. You still wouldn't agree because you see most of the Revelation as symbolic. I see symbolism in the Revelation also. Who then determines which symbolism is correct? :)

My biggest concern in discussing eschatology with you is concerning what determines a level debate table? We both possess strong convictions concerning the interpretation of God's word. Who determines the correct interpretation? You may pull from a concordance and I may pull from a lexicon with contrary views, etc.

Blessings,
pa



I owe you an apology. You did not say blind. You said:

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.

This was in direct response to my request to show me one world government and one world financial system in the Bible.

You have established that your belief in the "end times one world one financial system" comes from your spirituality and cannot be supported from the Bible.

Therefore what am asked to Believe when I request scripture?

I am asked to buy into YOUR spirituality for a "truth" that can not be established from the scripture.

The Bible has ceased to be the standard and your esoteric experience has replaced it.

How then are you not "superior" when you spirituality establishes Truths not seen in scripture? (Yea, even the Word of god is inadequate and has to be augmented by your spirituality)

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Postby pastorables » October 22nd, 2008, 5:18 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:

I owe you an apology. You did not say blind. You said:

You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe.



No apologies necessary, but let's get the record straight on my statement. That was meant with a little tongue in cheek, my friend.

Here is the actual quote:

pa wrote: You have not believed heretofore, neither would you now believe. :wink:


You left off the winkie. :)




Gerald Creasy wrote:You have established that your belief in the "end times one world one financial system" comes from your spirituality and cannot be supported from the Bible.


This is a gross misinterpretation of not only the context of my beliefs, but my character as well. You are entitled to your opinion though.

I think Brian had a great response to this:

Brian wrote: Hey Gerald, just want to interject something here for all of us to think about. John 16:13 says : However, when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

This is a factual statement revieled from the scriptures that the Holy Spirit of God will come to us and reveil the things He hears from God to us so our understanding may be complete. That being said, many of us, you, I, pastorables, Pastor Gary, Shellie, etc. etc. are on a path of understanding and obeidence (hopefully) to our Lord. Some may be in this place, some that. Some may be here, some there. To say if someone declares what the Spirit may have revieled to them is paramount to being self rightious and holier than thou is a little short sighted and contentious in my humble opinion.


Gerald Creasy wrote:
Therefore what am asked to Believe when I request scripture?

I am asked to buy into YOUR spirituality for a "truth" that can not be established from the scripture.


Again, not true. I have offered scriptures before and you didn't accept the established interpretation among eschatologists. (Though I will admit that some of my beliefs are not held by the wider school of thought on the subject.) Does that make them wrong or me?

Believe any interpretation you like, but don't say I've never offered scriptures. Furthermore, I don't want you to buy into anything, Gerald. Ole Miss is the best college in America, but I don't want you to buy into that belief either. 8) Disclaimer* - The Ole Miss remark isn't spiritual knowledge.

Gerald Creasy wrote:

The Bible has ceased to be the standard and your esoteric experience has replaced it.


(Buzzer sounding.) Again, not so. The Bible is my standard. Our respective interpretations are the difference. How can I share about the coming financial system, mark of the beast, and final wars, when you don't even believe in the man of sin, the Anti-Christ? It's all symbolic to you. And... no, I don't know who sets the parameters of the symbolism and when it's applicable. I only know how to trust and rely upon God's Spirit to help me in my studies. That doesn't make me more spiritual as we both have that right as children of God.

Blessings,
pa
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