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Too Spiritual
Can someone become to spiritual...What do you think?
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Acts 6:4 (KJV)
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
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kurt73 wrote:Can someone become to spiritual...What do you think?
People can certainly become too annoying in their presentation of their spirituality, I know that. I know THEM.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
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Re: To Spiritual
Pastor Gary wrote:kurt73 wrote:Can someone become to spiritual...What do you think?
People can certainly become too annoying in their presentation of their spirituality, I know that. I know THEM.
Read 1 Cor. After receiving the indwelling of the Spirit and speaking in tongues, they thought they were speaking the language of angels. They had ascended into a lofty place. Where the need for marital sex was not necessary. Leading to Paul's exhortation in chapter 7. I could go on and on but take a read
You cannot effectively love and minister to others when you are obsessed with protecting
and preserving yourself.
and preserving yourself.
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Too spiritual is in truth not possible, if by spiritual you mean in tune with the Holy Spirit, BUT most define spirituality by other standards and proofs that just don't line up.
I have seen many who are super-spiritual (meaning they supersede the spirit) and I have seen many who are hyper-spiritual (meaning they are very hyper and like to "act out" in a way that seems spiritual to them). I have even seen those that are over-spiritual, because they will do over and over something because one time the spirit moved that way.
Frankly I'd say the most spiritual (led by the Holy Spirit) are probably so humble that many never notice unless they are directly being ministered to, and there see the power of God working through a willing humble heart.
I have seen many who are super-spiritual (meaning they supersede the spirit) and I have seen many who are hyper-spiritual (meaning they are very hyper and like to "act out" in a way that seems spiritual to them). I have even seen those that are over-spiritual, because they will do over and over something because one time the spirit moved that way.
Frankly I'd say the most spiritual (led by the Holy Spirit) are probably so humble that many never notice unless they are directly being ministered to, and there see the power of God working through a willing humble heart.
"Why would God allow Hitler his chapter in history? Why would God send a whale to swallow Jonah or turn a woman into a pillar of salt? Surely there were other ways. But I'll leave the particular methods of God to God."
-Spoken by David Abraham, Showdown by Ted Dekker
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Pastor Bill wrote:Frankly I'd say the most spiritual (led by the Holy Spirit) are probably so humble that many never notice unless they are directly being ministered to, and there see the power of God working through a willing humble heart.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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paul wrote:...Where the need for marital sex was not necessary...
That pretty much blows our church growth strategy.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
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Re: To Spiritual
Pastor Gary wrote:paul wrote:...Where the need for marital sex was not necessary...
That pretty much blows our church growth strategy.
Yeah, the Shakers were against marital sex, too. You don't many of them these days...
Why is it that bad decisions seem to make to most interesting testimonies?
Good answer Pastor Bill!
I was going to say perhaps too "religious" -
but never too spiritual.
I've known a few people that were a little over
zealous & although they may have been sincere,
they just got on my nerves (of course, questioned
the sincerity of a few as well).
I was going to say perhaps too "religious" -
but never too spiritual.
I've known a few people that were a little over
zealous & although they may have been sincere,
they just got on my nerves (of course, questioned
the sincerity of a few as well).
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Pianoman, yes, that over zealous I think sums up many, and I think that in alot of ways it can be a lack of spiritual maturity, feeling the spirit and wanting to react but not always following as lead, and often being overzealous, but not having the experience or wisdom to really handle it as well.
Unfortunately that level of maturity is where many are most comfortable staying, and the zeal is often encouraged over the growth.
Unfortunately that level of maturity is where many are most comfortable staying, and the zeal is often encouraged over the growth.
"Why would God allow Hitler his chapter in history? Why would God send a whale to swallow Jonah or turn a woman into a pillar of salt? Surely there were other ways. But I'll leave the particular methods of God to God."
-Spoken by David Abraham, Showdown by Ted Dekker
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Re: To Spiritual
Mike Vande wrote:Yeah, the Shakers were against marital sex, too...
Thus the name, "Shakers."
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Gerald Creasy wrote:If you establish "Biblical Truth" by your spirituality are you too spiritual???????????????
Biblical Truth is already established, if you think by your spirituality you can trump scripture? yes that's going way too far. (unfortunately I've seen it)
"Why would God allow Hitler his chapter in history? Why would God send a whale to swallow Jonah or turn a woman into a pillar of salt? Surely there were other ways. But I'll leave the particular methods of God to God."
-Spoken by David Abraham, Showdown by Ted Dekker
-Spoken by David Abraham, Showdown by Ted Dekker
Pharisee were very spiritual, they were so deep in the Word they miss the real truth of Jesus coming. Paul was very knowledgeable of the Word but yet it took Jesus revealing himself to him inorder for him to see the truth.
So you can know the scriptures and go through the bible with a fine tooth comb picking it apart but without the presents of the HG or Christ in your life you can be no more then a self proclaim theologian. We can't lean on our own self understanding........
This is not directed to anyone, just speaking out loud and bringing more to the table to chat about.
So you can know the scriptures and go through the bible with a fine tooth comb picking it apart but without the presents of the HG or Christ in your life you can be no more then a self proclaim theologian. We can't lean on our own self understanding........
This is not directed to anyone, just speaking out loud and bringing more to the table to chat about.
Acts 6:4 (KJV)
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
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