Church s(hopping)

[A2JGirl]

Mr. Vande - for which remark do you feel I should apologize?

If you can't think of any, dude, I'll wait till you can.

Thank you! I have always been told that only women say "If you can't think of why you should apologize, then I'm not telling you!"

[Mike Vande]

Mr. Vande - for which remark do you feel I should apologize?

If you can't think of any, dude, I'll wait till you can.

Thank you! I have always been told that only women say "If you can't think of why you should apologize, then I'm not telling you!"

See the edited version, A2J. I rethought my answer. But a person who doesn't know what he has done wrong may regret getting busted at it, but is likely not very sorrowful over doing what he's been busted for. And, considering the good doctor's previously displayed propensity for sarcasm, he'll have to admit a certain amount of suspicion of the sincerity of his question is warranted...

[A2JGirl]

Awww, man. That's ok, I still have my proof. Oh, HONEY....

</hijack>

[N.T. Wright Fan]

So far, not to me. "Gotcha"? Puh-lease...

Actually, sir, I was simply asking you to specify what remark I had made to you (see above - "not to me") you deemed as warranting an apology.

You continue to derisively refer to me as "dude," and accuse me of lacking grace, depth, and love.

May I take it that this is your way of demonstrating what it means to "love first?"

[Mike Vande]

So far, not to me. "Gotcha"? Puh-lease...

Actually, sir,

Don't call me "sir", Dr Wright. I work for a living.

I was simply asking you to specify what remark I had made to you (see above - "not to me") you deemed as warranting an apology.

As I said, I'm not sure your remarks require an apology. You're welcome to figure that part out by yourself. I don't think it's my place.

However, since your quote of me includes my "quote" of you, It's not too much of a stretch to think you might already know what you should be apologizing for. But then, so far you don't seem to be reading things as thoroughly as you might, so you might not know after all.

You continue to refer to me as "dude," which I assume you intend to be derisive,

Since "dude" seems to offend you, and you seem to be taking a formalistic attitude, henceforce I'll call you Dr. Wright, as I have already started to.

That being said, you really aren't reading much of what's written here, are you, Dr Wright? I refer you to the answer I made above to your... "acolyte(?)" irthnvesl, regarding my use of the word "dude". If you read that, you'll probably know what I mean bycallibng men "dude".

However, to make sure you don't miss what I said while you are reading it, I told him most people use the word "dude" in a friendly, inclusive way these days. I call all the men here "dude", and so far, I can only think of one who took offense at it. Your assumption of derision is wholly inaccurate. How many inaccuracies does that make for you so far, Dr Wright?

referred to Mrs. Smith as "Hon,"

...also a friendly, inclusive diminutive, one commonly used from an older man to a younger woman. And, one which she doesn't seem to have a problem with. That being so, what business would that be of yours, Dr Wright?

and accused me of lacking grace, depth, and love.

Don't forget knowledge, I said you lacked that too, and that you needed to sanctify your tongue. Those things were not accusations, they were observations, and quite obvious to anyone who reads what you've written.

May I take it that this is your way of demonstrating what it means to "love first?"

Sure, unless you think it's more loving to let a brother continue sinning obviously without challenging him, which is not scriptural. And frankly, I don't see how allowing you to continue spewing your sarcasm upon Jennifer from a basis of misinformation would be showing her love, either. In all honesty, I don't see how you could call allowing either of those things to go on "love", but you're welcome to explain it, Dr Wright.

I'm listening...

[N.T. Wright Fan]

If you don't mind me asking, Mike, how old are you?

Granted, we probably don't travel in the same circles, but I don't know any grown men who actually refer to each other as "dude."

[sweetpea]

No,and I don't think you are who you are pretending to be.

[N.T. Wright Fan]

No,and I don't think you are who you are pretending to be.

With all due respect ma'am, I suspect I have a lot more in common with "N.T. Wright" than you do with a "sweet pea."

(Please note my signature)

[sweetpea]

How do you know that I am a woman,I have never told N T Wright that I was a woman.I do know a lot about sweet peas,and other peas also.I am not easily led astray by doctrines that do not line up with The Word of God.There are actually people on this forum that can read the Bible,they go to church and know the word of God.

I know we all can learn more,but I know when somethings are just not right.I may not have the education you do,but I know how to read the Bible.I don't understand a lot of it,but I know what I know,and no one ,I don't care how many titles they have after their name will easily mis-lead me.

I thought you were fishing,how many fish have you caught?

[N.T. Wright Fan]

How do you know that I am a woman?

Madam:

Like you said, there are some things one just "knows."

Frankly, I can't think of any self-respecting man who would publicly refer to himself as "sweet pea." (There is this one "dude," though...)

By the way, I do a little gardening myself. Personally, I'm partial to the pink-eyed purple hull. Not a sweet pea, no, but absolutely delicious with bacon and onions.

[Carlene Prince]

Sounds to me like “N. T. WRIGHT” may have a "Jezebel spirit"

Jezebel spirit primarily seeks to control, that it is a spirit of rebellion .

You know what the scripture said…..you will know them by their fruit.” Could we smell some “bad fruit” from N T? I mean I don’t read “ love, …. peace, …..longsuffering, gentleness, goodness”

{Jennifer---I am praying that you find God's direction in this. I too have been there and it is hard}

[sweetpea]

I knew it,Ms.gives your ID away.

[N.T. Wright Fan]

By jove, I think you've gotten it!

Just kidding.

Rest assured, madam, you don't have the slightest clue who I am. Or what I am capable of.

[sweetpea]

I'm scared,so very scared.

[N.T. Wright Fan]

I'm scared,so very scared.

Fear not, pea of sweetness. I like you.