Public plea to ban irthnvsl and related screen names

[Russell Roberts]

Thanks Kenya,

But I am dangerous...

OOOOoooo, I am scared.

[Shellie]

Kenya,

Have I told you that I loved you today?

[Kenya]

Kenya,

Have I told you that I loved you today?

Not today. I love you too. I miss the days of old with you. We had so much fun!!!

[Shellie]

Kenya wrote:

I miss the days of old with you. We had so much fun!!!

Quit being so busy and come back to me!

[one love]

so, you can see that text can be understood incorrectly.

Sure, you have again.... I have not said you do not have a pastors heart, I am SIMPLY saying "IF" you do have a pastors heart you could understand how that post could be hurtful.... To put it plainly I am saying you should understand, nothing more or less....

interesting. I did not say that you did not love him, nor did I insinuate that) - you apparently made an assumption in the text that I did not intend, directly or indirectly.

No but you are acting as if I am judging him when you are showing love, that is how you are coming across.

i disagree, you can not know my personality by the text that I post. nor can I know yours, as I had eluded already. this goes for any poster.

Now I said you cant know everyone but your personality does come through your post. That is fact. The way you react to things, whether it is anger, laughter, being understanding or judging people. This all can shine through your post and is a glimpse of who you are. If you think that is not a part of you, then I dont know what to say. I feel I have got to know a lot of people here. I dont know about all their family life etc... but that was the point.

In my perception of your text, as example - you continue to poke the low blow at me with your defense in insinuation that I don't have a pastors heart.

I have never said such a thing...... I am plainly implying that as someone who says he has a pastors heart you should understand what PG was going through, that is all.

posting text in a forum, in blogs etc, are just a textual shadow, and representation of a minute part of a small portion of someone's life. I don't know about you, but when I post, it is not to express my entire lifestyle, and loving relationships with my wife, my family let alone my God.

I have not claimed that you can know anyone completely through a forum but you sure can know their personality and how they react to things. For instance Mr Danger and Shellie always crack me up... Some are very quick to get angry and assume things. Some are very judgemental. Others try to be loving and caring, many different people and they all shine through their post.

You probably wouldn't want to know what I would perceive as your personality if I went strictly by your posts. (and neither would I, since that's not how I perceive people on forums and blogs, etc...)

I surely would not mind to know what you think of me. I try my best to be good to everyone.

as for bias, my point is that EVERYONE is biased (see above about perception of personality based on textual posts). if you say you are completely objective, then I can say that you are not truthful with yourself. being biased is not a "bad thing". we all are raised a certain way, and others were raised differently. I say pop, someone says soda. I like waffles for breakfast and fried chicken for lunch or dinner. I would never put fried chicken on my waffle (except to try it when visiting that part of the country/world)

What we are used to and eat has nothing to do with someones thought about a pastor posting his thoughts about a hard situation, then someone else responding to it. I am not biased regarding that at all, I have no side in this. I simply looked at what was written and understood what he was saying and going through, I read the other post and understood the sarcasm in it. I just think it was in bad taste.

Rambo I am not sure what has made you so defensive as of late but I have nothing against ya nor have I ever implied to. So I hope all is well with you.
As a note I do not make blanket assumptions or judgments, such as to say you dont have a pastors heart, I am simply not that way. So think as you like I am again confused at how this is so complex when actually it is very simple.

[beckrl]

Thanks Kenya,

But I am dangerous...

Dangerous theology

Maybe sometimes rude and shows hatred especially if you disagree with him. Thinks it's all about him Acts childish. Especially to Pastor Gary concerning his post from his heart. Some have been given a cool off time or ban for less. But that's not up to me.

To me it's not so much how one acts but for irthnvesl it's his theology that concerns me. Some of it boarders on heresy.

[Russell Roberts]

Thanks Kenya,

But I am dangerous...

Dangerous theology

Maybe sometimes rude and shows hatred especially if you disagree with him. Thinks it's all about him Acts childish. Especially to Pastor Gary concerning his post from his heart. Some have been given a cool off time or ban for less. But that's not up to me.

To me it's not so much how one acts but for irthnvesl it's his theology that concerns me. Some of it boarders on heresy.

Would you like to provide an example?

[RamboPreacher]

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Sure, you have again.... I have not said you do not have a pastors heart, I am SIMPLY saying "IF" you do have a pastors heart you could understand how that post could be hurtful.... To put it plainly I am saying you should understand, nothing more or less....

and I didn't say you said it either. still more to the text that is read incorrectly, point. how am I acting? you can't see me, you can only guess based on text messages on a public forum that you read with your own bias applied.

not being defensive, just trying to express my opinion. I was trying to defend a brother in Christ as one that has been there when people misunderstand the intent of the text, as you continue to do with my posts, and vice versa.

I will agree to disagree with you on "knowing someone" by there posts. if you really want to know what I would think of you based on your posts, verses what I perceive based on reading between the lines, of course, as mentioned to you, I have to apply my personal bias.

warning, not what I actually think of you, but could:
bigoted, self-righteous, stuck in the mud (judgmental), theologically with no room for growth or actual relationship with Christ.
what I think (without knowing you in persona or researching you): - a wise, older gentlemen, a true brother in Christ, that has been brought up in a way that is different than how I learned - theologically, that would sooner not say anything rather than hurt my feelings.

see the difference?

[one love]

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Sure, you have again.... I have not said you do not have a pastors heart, I am SIMPLY saying "IF" you do have a pastors heart you could understand how that post could be hurtful.... To put it plainly I am saying you should understand, nothing more or less....

and I didn't say you said it either. still more to the text that is read incorrectly, point. how am I acting? you can't see me, you can only guess based on text messages on a public forum that you read with your own bias applied.

not being defensive, just trying to express my opinion. I was trying to defend a brother in Christ as one that has been there when people misunderstand the intent of the text, as you continue to do with my posts, and vice versa.

I will agree to disagree with you on "knowing someone" by there posts. if you really want to know what I would think of you based on your posts, verses what I perceive based on reading between the lines, of course, as mentioned to you, I have to apply my personal bias.

warning, not what I actually think of you, but could:
bigoted, self-righteous, stuck in the mud (judgmental), theologically with no room for growth or actual relationship with Christ.
what I think (without knowing you in persona or researching you): - a wise, older gentlemen, a true brother in Christ, that has been brought up in a way that is different than how I learned - theologically, that would sooner not say anything rather than hurt my feelings.

see the difference?

Not sure why he needs defending I have said or done nothing to him. I have Pm him and that is between him and I. Nothing I said was a attack...

Next Rambo that is very interesting thought of me....... Seems that my post have not shown any of those characteristics (the first portion) but whatever....

I was talking about how quick you seem to jump on someone as of late.... for me personally I have not seen you this way before. Especially how you apply thoughts about me in that way.

My post and actions to others have NEVER shown me to be any of the first things you mentioned, I have never judged you at all, nor have I ever acted self righteous..... You in a sense are trying to defend a person (that I have not insulted) then insulted me at the same time...interesting how that worked out.

Next we are talking about how your post brings out your personality and if that be the case then the first part is how you feel about me. Sadly I have never shown such attributes. If by me believing a certain way brings those thoughts to mind then that is very close minded and hypocritical. You are implying since I believe a certain way and do not accept certain beliefs as you do then I am self righteous and judgmental. I would love for you to show me where I have posted in this manner OR how I have acted in any such fashion.
I have tried to be good to everyone here even those I dont know and may disagree with greatly. The only thing I have done is post how I believe in a doctrine forum that is it, never applied it to any certain person. BTW I see the difference but the point is that ones personality comes out in their post, so your first thought would indicate that would be your thoughts based on my post alone, but I have not posted that way. The only other option would be you making a opinion based on doctrinal differences that I rarely talk about, so they are not based on my actions or post....

God bless Rambo

[soulsearcher]

I don't give a rat's booty if he's one, two, three or multiple personalities. No skin off my nose.. All the more to be ignored. Chill, people.

[paul]

WOW ! seems like the old days...If they don't meet your standards and conform to your theology..DISFELLOWSHIP THEM.

[one love]

WOW ! seems like the old days...If they don't meet your standards and conform to your theology..DISFELLOWSHIP THEM.

Conform to your theology???????? The members are supposed to be aware of the theology and agree with it when joining. Just seems like a broad stroke there...........It seems you are saying after joining if they don't meet "YOUR" standards then they are turned out... They should know the doctrine before joining and they agree to walk in that light (old way of COGOP)
You make it appear that people walked into it blindly

[Pastor Gary]

WOW ! seems like the old days...If they don't meet your standards and conform to your theology..DISFELLOWSHIP THEM.

Jude2 has no Theology.

[ichthus]

NT Wright Fan is as phony as Pamela Anderson's decolletage. He's the same person as IRTHNVSL.

If that's so, then how were all three users logged in at once earlier? I believe that NT Wright Fan is Irthnvsl's brother. Search the blogs, my friend. It's in the blogs.

pa

You CAN have the same user logged in at the same time under two or more different names if you use one of the anonymous proxy websites freely available to log into Jude2 for one or more of the "users"

Pastor Gary posted full proof on another thread that Irthnvsl and NT Wright are the SAME EXACT IP ADDRESS for all their posts! There's just no getting around that one!

[Russell Roberts]

Ichthus, you are killing me! I bet you don't think that Lee Harvey Oswalt shot JFK.

If I am N.T. Wright fan and Wes, I have pulled off the most elaborate hoax ever. I can't begin to imagine the trouble I would have to go to in order to actually pull that off. It would be like doing the job of each emoticon at the end of this sentence and I'm just not that talented.

P.S. Guess what happens if you are all at work and you all access the internet from the same router? That's it. You guessed it - same IP address.