Full moon? Halloween? Need a cold shower?

[Pastor Gary]

Hey gang -- I have been a wee bit busy over the past few days, and have not been tracking the turmoil as closely as some of you, but...
PEOPLE - can we calm the tone and chill the rhetoric a little and take an objective step back?

Irthenvsl came in with a bang. He posted more posts in his first few days here than some people have ever in their entire time among us. You may or may not realize that he didn't write all that stuff spontaneously. Google "Irthenvsl" and you will see that he actively participates on numerous Christian discussion forums, with pretty much the same series of posts, same selected topics... and that's fine. He has chosen to make himself, as one man put it, the world's leading expert on his own opinion.

I see that many of you don't seem to care for his style, and I agree with you to this extent: he has approached Jude2 as just another of his impersonal, doctrinal debate forums, rather than the way most of us view it -- as a circle of friends interacting on multiple levels and becoming involved in one another's lives. (I know many of your spouse's names, your children's names, your struggles and triumphs; I have prayed you through tough times and you have returned the blessing. We are more connected than the posters on the average forum, and I am not sure newbies catch that right away.)

Feeling perhaps a bit like the Lone Ranger ("I'll take cultural references from the 50's for $100, Wink") he invited his brother and a friend/co-worker to join him here. Due to the IP/router address, I wrongly believed it was just Irtenvsl playing around with us by registering multiple ID's. That was NOT the case. 3 names... 3 individuals. I did change one of the names from "N.T. Wright" to "N.T. Wright Fan" because I have an issue with anyone posting under the name of a real person other than themselves.

Let's try to step back a few paces, take a cold shower, and start over.

Forgiveness is a virtue.

[Russell Roberts]

the world's leading expert on his own opinion.

Hey, I resemble that remark!

[one love]

Google "Irthenvsl" and you will see that he actively participates on numerous Christian discussion forums, with pretty much the same series of posts, same selected topics.

Out of curiosity I did Google Irthenvsl and you are correct many of the same post and MANY forums. My only question is where do you find the time
I dont know how you do it. I am actually impressed that you do not get Headaches from that much typing and reading

[Russell Roberts]

One Love,

My job is very flexible. I am self-employed and my hobby is to study the Bible. That's about it.

[sweetpea]

I like you,you apologized to me after finding out I was an older lady.I don't always agree with you,but I believe you have a good heart.

[Russell Roberts]

Thank you pea of sweetness. You are from Pearl?

Scratch that. You said you were from Hollandale? In the Delta?

[sweetpea]

No,I'm from the Delta,Hollandale.

[Susie Hamilton]

I can forgive, but forgetting is harder. Also, once I lose trust in a person, it is very hard to regain my trust. Just something I have learned in my life experiences.

[ichthus]

Thanks Pastor Gary. That explains the same IP address for Irthnvesl and NT Wright Fan. On another thread, I thought Irthnvsl was denying that they were the same IP address, or that someone had "cloned his IP address" but I now see he was only denying they are the same individual.

[JanB]

I like you,you apologized to me after finding out I was an older lady.I don't always agree with you,but I believe you have a good heart.

Thank you, my friend, for this post. I don't see the man as a total loss. Holy Moley! can you believe all this noise coming from our quiet, little 'John Mc Cain' state.

[N.T. Wright Fan]

I did change one of the names from "N.T. Wright" to "N.T. Wright Fan" because I have an issue with anyone posting under the name of a real person other than themselves.

Might I add, in my own defense, that after it became clear to me that some people were seriously taking me to be the "real" N.T. Wright, I sent Pastor Gary a private email asking him to change my username to "N.T. Wright Fan" (or something like that...don't know if he got it). I also asked Irthnvesl to contact him with the same request.

[Penny]

Might I add, in my own defense, that after it became clear to me that some people were seriously taking me to be the "real" N.T. Wright, I sent Pastor Gary a private email asking him to change my username to "N.T. Wright Fan" (or something like that...don't know if he got it). I also asked Irthnvesl to contact him with the same request.

Why would we not take you seriously?

Maybe you think it is ok to go around being someone you are not. I have a hard enough time with my busy life than to even try to be someone else. That to me is a lie, and I do not lie nor do I mis lead.

I do not understand why people want to play games like this. I guess that just proves that here on a christian message board people still lie, and for "fun" they mis lead people.

[pastorables]

Why would we not take you seriously?

Penny,

The probability that the real N.T. Wright would have registered on Jude2 would be similar to T.D. Jakes or Billy Graham coming aboard.

I don't believe our friends from Mississippi ever meant to cause harm with their little jest. They simply didn't know the rules of the board.

Blessings,
pa

[Penny]

Why would we not take you seriously?

Penny,

The probability that the real N.T. Wright would have registered on Jude2 would be similar to T.D. Jakes or Billy Graham coming aboard.

I don't believe our friends from Mississippi ever meant to cause harm with their little jest. They simply didn't know the rules of the board.

Blessings,
pa

I know that, but that still dose not ok what he did. it wrong!

[Full Quiver]

Who is NT Wright (without taking the time to Google it myself)?