Hello from Tim Elston...

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » November 1st, 2008, 7:37 pm

...sometime Centrist, sometime Leftist, apparently sometime entertainer.

I've been lurking for the last couple of months. I knew where to come to get a read on a certain political perspective. I was not disappointed. There have been a few times when I wished I could engage, but the straw on the camel's back was when three of you voted for me as the most entertaining on Jude2 ever. Well, even John McCain has lapses of judgment, so I won't let your selection go to my head. I just want to say that I was touched that three of you voted for me. I mean that. Thank you.

And hello.

By the way, Leftist voted for Chuck Baldwin, not once, not twice, but three times: the Illinois primary, the Alaska primary, and the early general election this past Thursday. Go, Obama! Go, McCain! But stay, Ron Paul! Stay, Chuck Baldwin. And, by all means, stay, Paris Hilton!

Poimen · Postby **Poimen** » November 1st, 2008, 8:22 pm

Tim!

Great to hear from you friend.

Glad to know your at least lurking from time to time. :wink:

Tracy · Postby **Tracy** » November 2nd, 2008, 1:29 am

I'm glad to see you here again. Welcome back!

Tracy

Postby **Shellie** » November 2nd, 2008, 2:15 am

Welcome back, Tim.

I guess me and you will always be me and you, but I do offer my hand to you.

TW · Postby TW » November 2nd, 2008, 2:52 am

Welcome back Tim.

TW

Jennifer Smith · Postby **Jennifer Smith** » November 2nd, 2008, 3:31 am

Welcome Tim, good to see you.

justsam · Postby **justsam** » November 2nd, 2008, 3:43 am

Now I really don't like Irthenvessel!

God Bless You- Sam Smith

Gerald Creasy · Postby **Gerald Creasy** » November 2nd, 2008, 4:29 am

Well, Hello Tim.

I was sorry to see you leave last time.

But I do have to ask: Is Christ still denigrated by your massive intellect?

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » November 2nd, 2008, 4:47 am

Hey Tim... I was one of the three that voted for you. Boy am I sorry now? Nah.. it was sincere. Glad you enjoyed it.

Also anything changed concerning your belief in a God?

Btw.. were you not the HUGE McCain fan? When he was nominated.. I thought you would have posted then. If you don't support him.. what changed?

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » November 2nd, 2008, 8:07 am

justsam wrote:Now I really don't like Irthenvessel!

God Bless You- Sam Smith

Way too funny, Sam.

Yours truly,

Phil Hoover.

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » November 2nd, 2008, 8:19 am

Tim Elston wrote:
justsam wrote:Now I really don't like Irthenvessel!

God Bless You- Sam Smith

Way too funny, Sam.

Yours truly,

Phil Hoover.

You mean

Phil Hoover - Chicago
Manifold Blessings!

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » November 2nd, 2008, 8:32 am

MacUser wrote:Hey Tim... I was one of the three that voted for you. Boy am I sorry now? Nah.. it was sincere. Glad you enjoyed it.

No kidding? I would not have expected that. Wow, that's cool. Thanks for that. I probably won't be as enteraining this time around, because I think I've calmed down a bit.

MacUser wrote:Btw.. were you not the HUGE McCain fan? When he was nominated.. I thought you would have posted then. If you don't support him.. what changed?

I still think McCain is okay. He'd be an improvement over Bush Jr. A number of things caused me to lose my enthusiasm for him: he voted for the bailout; I agree with Pat Buchanan's foreign policy on Russia, and McCain/Obama were 180 degrees from it; he lost me when he sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran"; he seemed to back down from his torture position due to political calculations; Joe Liebermann's support for him appeared to be based solely on McCain's alignment with the Israeli lobby, which makes me suspicious, not because I don't want peace for Israel, but because I believe that pandering to the right-wing in Israel without putting real pressure on it to give up the West Bank settlements will not bring peace; McCain comes with the Republican party, which has proven derelect of major conservative principles recently.

I do, however, think that his position on free trade is sound and superior to Obama's stated protectionism and that he would not simply be another four more years of President Bush. His basic instincts are not neoconservative, which is a plus in my book. What bothers me about both McCain and Obama is that they, like their parties, are in the pocket of Wall Street. Obama will not change anything fundamental in terms of the money power structure status quo by which the Plutocracy has its way with this country, and neither would McCain if he were elected.

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » November 2nd, 2008, 8:38 am

Shellie wrote:Welcome back, Tim.

I guess me and you will always be me and you, but I do offer my hand to you.

Thanks, Shellie. I appreciate that. When I was lurking I saw you do a couple of really cool things, and I thought, Hey, I like that about her! Thanks for your gesture of kindness.

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » November 2nd, 2008, 8:42 am

Tracy, Poimen, Jennifer, TW, Gerald, EagerBeaver,

Thank you.

pastorables · Postby **pastorables** » November 2nd, 2008, 9:31 am

Welcome back Tim. Our discussions and/or debates go way back.

Don't be a stranger. :wink:

Blessings,
pa

Jude 2