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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 2nd, 2008, 10:20 am

An now Michelle gets her own!!!
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Postby one love » November 2nd, 2008, 10:40 am

Michelle Obama reminds me of President Palmers wife in 24 :shock: :lol:

crazy, sneaky etc. :wink:

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Postby pastorables » November 2nd, 2008, 10:40 am

Tim Elston wrote: Obama is a man, and he knows it. So does everyone else.



And Farrakhan says "messiah"...? :roll:

You are correct. Obama is just a man, albeit a man who thinks too highly of himself.

He will not have answers until he reaches presidential pay-grade. ](*,)

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Postby Tim Elston » November 2nd, 2008, 10:57 am

pastorables wrote:And Farrakhan says "messiah"...? :roll:

You are correct. Obama is just a man, albeit a man who thinks too highly of himself.

He will not have answers until he reaches presidential pay-grade. ](*,)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7r1lpn4gQs


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Last I heard, Farrakhan is not on Obama's advisors list. Yes, Obama thinks too highly of himself, just as anyone does who would run for President.

I was impressed that when Obama was a young black lawyer his colleagues predicted around the water cooler that he would become the first black president. Obama is an amazingly gifted man. That's a good thing, because our best presidents have been amazingly gifted. None of them has become a messiah, but I doubt a person with a messiah complex would get very far in American politics.

Yes, I heard Obama's pay-grade remark. It was a cop-out, and his voting record on abortion is the main reason I couldn't vote for him in spite of my appreciation for some of his other ideas and qualities.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 2nd, 2008, 11:02 am

If Obama believes himself to be just a man I have to ask where he thinks the light that will shine down on me giving me guidance as to who to vote for will eminate from and why it would work on his behalf.

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Postby Shellie » November 2nd, 2008, 11:20 am

Why do these remind me of the scene in The Lion King where, (I think) the monkey, holds the baby Simba up?
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Postby Tim Elston » November 2nd, 2008, 11:26 am

What people do with their cameras and PhotoShop programs rises to the level of what the RNC does with Sarah Palin's wardrobe, in terms of what matters for our country. Tax policy, yes, important. Foreign policy, yes, important. The economy, yes, important. Photography? Wardrobes? Not important.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 2nd, 2008, 11:38 am

Tim Elston wrote:What people do with their cameras and PhotoShop programs rises to the level of what the RNC does with Sarah Palin's wardrobe, in terms of what matters for our country. Tax policy, yes, important. Foreign policy, yes, important. The economy, yes, important. Photography? Wardrobes? Not important.





Implying the supernatural is equal to dressing snazzy????

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Postby Tim Elston » November 2nd, 2008, 11:45 am

Gerald Creasy wrote:Implying the supernatural is equal to dressing snazzy????


There is nothing supernatural about photography and PhotoShop. Photography and design are about image. Yes, image influences the electorate, sadly, but that comes with the territory of being all too human. What will bite us is not image, but substance, and we do ourselves a disservice by being distracted by irrelevance or caught up in paranoia.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 2nd, 2008, 12:01 pm

Tim Elston wrote:
Gerald Creasy wrote:Implying the supernatural is equal to dressing snazzy????


There is nothing supernatural about photography and PhotoShop. Photography and design are about image. Yes, image influences the electorate, sadly, but that comes with the territory of being all too human. What will bite us is not image, but substance, and we do ourselves a disservice by being distracted by irrelevance or caught up in paranoia.


Okay You've quickly confused me (must be my limited intellect and all).

You say images influence; yet snarkily comment there's nothing supernatural about photography and photoshop.

Yet Plainly: Photoshop has been used to IMPLY something otherworldy and special in order to influence.

No one has seen Sarah Palin in snazzy heels and claimed her Messiah or written effusively about how she is their Lord and if that offends then so be it.

Yet these things have happened for Obama. He has been called the Messiah. He has been called Lord NOT by the paranoid BUT BY HIS OWN FOLLOWERS.

Why is it disengeuous on our part to notice that??????

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Postby Tim Elston » November 2nd, 2008, 12:38 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:Okay You've quickly confused me (must be my limited intellect and all).

You say images influence; yet snarkily comment there's nothing supernatural about photography and photoshop.

Yet Plainly: Photoshop has been used to IMPLY something otherworldy and special in order to influence.

No one has seen Sarah Palin in snazzy heels and claimed her Messiah or written effusively about how she is their Lord and if that offends then so be it.

Yet these things have happened for Obama. He has been called the Messiah. He has been called Lord NOT by the paranoid BUT BY HIS OWN FOLLOWERS.

Why is it disengeuous on our part to notice that??????


For one thing, who took those photos? The one with the halo is from a right-wing spoofing site, so it appears to be a parody created by a conservative. The others: Did Obama commission them to hypnotize the world into thinking he's the Messiah? Or is it more likely that a good photographer knew how to get a good shot? Is there an artistic quality to them? Yes, I'd certainly be proud of them. Is Obama even responsible for these photos? Unlikely. And some of Obama's supporters are apparently as uncritical of That One as George Bush's were of The Decider. This is political theatre. Palin supporters say, "She rocks my world." Really? Your world? Wow, she must have a Marian complex. Didn't I hear Palin say that John McCain was going to make the world a safer place? Really? The world? She must think she's Mary and McCain is the Revelator. Scary!
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Postby Paully_44 » November 2nd, 2008, 3:28 pm

pastorables wrote:You are correct. Obama is just a man, albeit a man who thinks too highly of himself.


Dont most politicians though?
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Postby pastorables » November 2nd, 2008, 4:46 pm

Paully_44 wrote:
pastorables wrote:You are correct. Obama is just a man, albeit a man who thinks too highly of himself.


Dont most politicians though?


Possibly those from "blue" states. 8) :D
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Postby MacUser » November 2nd, 2008, 6:09 pm

Tim,
This exercise is highlighting the favorable media that Obama is getting.. DOWN to the last snapshot angle. Obama now has a righteous wind at his back with retouched photos.

Brow beat all you want on this topic but again you are sorely wrong.
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