Preparing for the New Reality

[dolfan]

Let's assume today that our next president will be Barack Obama. Let's further assume a filibuster-busting supermajority of 60 Democrats in the Senate.

What will America look like in two years? What if we take Barack Obama at his word? What if we take Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid at theirs? Barney Frank?

Massive tax increases.

A depressed economy.

A new, revived non-working class.

Federal control of local schools.

Nationalized banks.

Airwaves censored regarding political thought and expression.

The control of Internet content by the Government.

People secretly arming themselves, often illegally because of a packed Supreme Court and appellate system that will find no 2nd Amendment rights to bear arms absent a "well-regulated militia".

Racial hatred born from a sense of entitlement fed by the newly expanded welfare state and the confiscation of wealth from producers, compounded by the skyrocketing loss of jobs for the middle class.

How do you prepare for this? What do you say to your kids?

[DaJudge]

I've been thinking about this a lot. All I can say is that God is still on the throne, no matter how vile our Earthly leader is. He was on the throne when Nero was emperor, and he'll be on the throne with President B.O.

[Gerald Creasy]

I'm preparing to say "You are a freakin' idiot!" quite a bit to people who voted for him.

[Ilovebigcats]

We will watch President Biden on TV say, "I told you he should have picked Hillary," after Obama is assassinated by a group of skin heads from Alabama and Tennessee.

You think I am kidding? I'm serious...
Racism is very real in the South.
More so than people realize.
Idiots.





DISCLAIMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not RACES! I do NOT wish him dead! I do NOT plan to kill him! I do NOT know anyone that would kill him! I just know enough people that are racist to know that he wont live long if elected! I love you FBI, CIA, NSA... ABCD!!!

[EagerBeaver]

I've been thinking about this a lot. All I can say is that God is still on the throne, no matter how vile our Earthly leader is. He was on the throne when Nero was emperor, and he'll be on the throne with President B.O.

Amen. God has never let His children go without so bad that they cannot sustain themselves. We will need to grab a hold of God and not let go...we will all be okay.

[cndlou]

I agree with you, Cats! I think he is as good as gone...actually I am surprised no one has tried (I mean really tried) before now....

[Pastor Gary]

I realize that the speculation here today about the safety of a candidate or possible electee-to-be is just that: speculation. I also know all of you, and know you wish no harm toward anyone, even if you vote for their opponent.

I would just caution that one must be very cautious in discussing these matters as theory, speculation and such, lest anyone be misunderstood as suggesting, predicting or inciting others to act.

Just a precautionary word, and, yes, I understand what is being said and the innocent speculation being tossed around.

[dolfan]

I've been thinking about this a lot. All I can say is that God is still on the throne, no matter how vile our Earthly leader is. He was on the throne when Nero was emperor, and he'll be on the throne with President B.O.

Amen. God has never let His children go without so bad that they cannot sustain themselves. We will need to grab a hold of God and not let go...we will all be okay.

Really (about the bolded part)? I don't want to be disagreeable, but I just don't believe that to be true. (Don't read this next statement as being anything other than a time in history, no doctrinal ponies being ridden here.) In AD 70, after Jerusalem's fall, the Jews ate their own children because they were starving. Now, either that is a form of sustenance (in which case I'll concede the point formally), or God considered them no longer His children (a theological argument I'm not prepared to defend), or God let His children go without so bad they could not sustain themselves.

It may be that sustenance is all we have to look forward to, which is the change Obama is moving us toward, IMO. And, certainly, God is faithful. But, I don't want to pretend that God is not the author of destruction. If it serves His purpose, He can destroy all of the structures of our livelihoods and families and society, etc. He's done it before. So, by "grabbing hold of God" (and I take that advice seriously) in the face of this watershed, are we preparing ourselves to take what He offers to substitute for all we've come to know and depend on? Are we ready for a wholesale Katrina-ing of our lives because God is the master of the political winds, too? Are we content with that (and, let us recall that Godliness with contentment is great gain)? Those are sobering thoughts. If so, if that is really our ready-set-go in all of this, then maybe Obama's election is the best thing. Would you agree with that, Eager?

(Not being testy, I am just truly thinking out loud.)

[Billy n NC]

Let's assume today that our next president will be Barack Obama. Let's further assume a filibuster-busting supermajority of 60 Democrats in the Senate.

What will America look like in two years? What if we take Barack Obama at his word? What if we take Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid at theirs? Barney Frank?

Massive tax increases.

A depressed economy.

A new, revived non-working class.

Federal control of local schools.

Nationalized banks.

Airwaves censored regarding political thought and expression.

The control of Internet content by the Government.

People secretly arming themselves, often illegally because of a packed Supreme Court and appellate system that will find no 2nd Amendment rights to bear arms absent a "well-regulated militia".

Racial hatred born from a sense of entitlement fed by the newly expanded welfare state and the confiscation of wealth from producers, compounded by the skyrocketing loss of jobs for the middle class.

How do you prepare for this? What do you say to your kids?

This is what gets me.. He has not kept any of this hidden. And yet so many are voting for him.

HOW... can this be..

[Sherry]

Let's assume today that our next president will be Barack Obama. Let's further assume a filibuster-busting supermajority of 60 Democrats in the Senate.

What will America look like in two years? What if we take Barack Obama at his word? What if we take Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid at theirs? Barney Frank?

Massive tax increases.

A depressed economy.

A new, revived non-working class.

Federal control of local schools.

Nationalized banks.

Airwaves censored regarding political thought and expression.

The control of Internet content by the Government.

People secretly arming themselves, often illegally because of a packed Supreme Court and appellate system that will find no 2nd Amendment rights to bear arms absent a "well-regulated militia".

Racial hatred born from a sense of entitlement fed by the newly expanded welfare state and the confiscation of wealth from producers, compounded by the skyrocketing loss of jobs for the middle class.

How do you prepare for this? What do you say to your kids?

This is what gets me.. He has not kept any of this hidden. And yet so many are voting for him.

HOW... can this be..

Infatuation.

Drank the kool aid.

Obama is a narcissist. Then again so was David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Jim Jones, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler.

[DaJudge]

We will watch President Biden on TV say, "I told you he should have picked Hillary," after Obama is assassinated by a group of skin heads from Alabama and Tennessee.

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I SO hope you are wrong. It would literally destroy the country if that happened. Remember the Rodney King riots? That's about 1/1000th of what would happen if some redneck shot Obama.

[Mike Vande]

The Secret Service has to gearing up for the most intensive protection detail the world has ever seen. No, Obama will never be allowed into a position to be assassinated. And every right wing group or political dissident in the country will have surveillance so far down their throats 24/7, the FBI will be getting detailed reports on the contents of their stomachs. And the assassins oversees won't touch him, they know he's on their side.

We survived 8 years of the Clintons, we'll survive the 4 years it takes Obama & Biden to show the country they have no idea what they are doing. I'm not worried too much about that.

But I am nearly certain that the year after they leave office, we'll be attacked inside our borders by foreign terrorists again. It will happen, because like the Clintons, the Obama/Biden administration will do nothing to hinder the growth of foreign terrorist organizations, but they will dismantle our military again, and they'll call it "giving the hard-pressed middle class a Peace Dividend".

[Jennifer Smith]

I've been thinking about this a lot. All I can say is that God is still on the throne, no matter how vile our Earthly leader is. He was on the throne when Nero was emperor, and he'll be on the throne with President B.O.

Amen. God has never let His children go without so bad that they cannot sustain themselves. We will need to grab a hold of God and not let go...we will all be okay.

Really (about the bolded part)? I don't want to be disagreeable, but I just don't believe that to be true. (Don't read this next statement as being anything other than a time in history, no doctrinal ponies being ridden here.) In AD 70, after Jerusalem's fall, the Jews ate their own children because they were starving. Now, either that is a form of sustenance (in which case I'll concede the point formally), or God considered them no longer His children (a theological argument I'm not prepared to defend), or God let His children go without so bad they could not sustain themselves.

It may be that sustenance is all we have to look forward to, which is the change Obama is moving us toward, IMO. And, certainly, God is faithful. But, I don't want to pretend that God is not the author of destruction. If it serves His purpose, He can destroy all of the structures of our livelihoods and families and society, etc. He's done it before. So, by "grabbing hold of God" (and I take that advice seriously) in the face of this watershed, are we preparing ourselves to take what He offers to substitute for all we've come to know and depend on? Are we ready for a wholesale Katrina-ing of our lives because God is the master of the political winds, too? Are we content with that (and, let us recall that Godliness with contentment is great gain)? Those are sobering thoughts. If so, if that is really our ready-set-go in all of this, then maybe Obama's election is the best thing. Would you agree with that, Eager?

(Not being testy, I am just truly thinking out loud.)

I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread.

They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be blessed.
Turn from evil and do good; then you will dwell in the land forever.
For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. They will be protected forever, but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;
the righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever.
The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom, and his tongue speaks what is just.

The law of his God is in his heart; his feet do not slip.

The wicked lie in wait for the righteous, seeking their very lives; but the LORD will not leave them in their power or let them be condemned when brought to trial.


Wait for the LORD and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.

I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,


but he soon passed away and was no more; though I looked for him, he could not be found.

Consider the blameless, observe the upright; there is a future for the man of peace.

But all sinners will be destroyed; the future of the wicked will be cut off.

The salvation of the righteous comes from the Lord; he is their stronghold in time of trouble.
The LORD helps them and delivers them; he delivers them from the wicked and saves them, because they take refuge in him.

[Blended]

I really do not mean this as a personal attack or slander I am just so tired of the religious overkill using this scripture

Tell it to the starving Christians in Somalia. tell it to the tens of thousand displaced and abandon in the DRC.

There has always been in every judgment of God on the earth a faithful remnant that lived on to procreate but there were also many faithful who died because of the sins of others in the kindom than there own.

Please people quit miss-using scripture it is just as bad or maybe worse than the God wants all his children rich so send in your money claptrap.


Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

I dislike McCain but liked his choice of Palin. I could be wrong but historically the polls this close on election day I believe have always gone for a larger swing the other way.

And I am with you PG no one who truly understands the issues could vote for Obama except by just drinking the kool-aid and not considering the questions before they answer.

Blended

[Full Quiver]

If BO is elected then the Secret Service will have a heck of a job on their hands. BO plans on attending a massive victory party in Chicago with potentially a few hundred thousand people present. I'd resign if I worked for the SS due to an increased possibility of having to give my life for an idiot.