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Good electoral news in Cali

Postby forestwalker » November 5th, 2008, 8:06 am

Prop 8 passes
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Postby Paully_44 » November 5th, 2008, 8:11 am

Do you have a "right to die" initiative there? Up here in Washington, we just passed one last night with nearly 60% of the votes in favor of.
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Re: Good electoral news in Cali

Postby paul » November 5th, 2008, 8:44 am

forestwalker wrote:Prop 8 passes


apparently California is not as liberal as some other states. :lol:

In all seriousness it was a clear example of the church in action. The Catholic Church and its leaders, the Jewish community the evangelicals and Pentecostal/charismatic. The white and spanish churches. also the coming together for a day of prayer and fasting by the general church at the Qurram in San Diego.
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Postby forestwalker » November 5th, 2008, 8:56 am

Paully_44 wrote:Do you have a "right to die" initiative there? Up here in Washington, we just passed one last night with nearly 60% of the votes in favor of.

No, the insurance companies have not yet succeeded in getting this evil on our ballot.
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Postby MacUser » November 5th, 2008, 9:25 am

Amazing!
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Postby DeWayneTN » November 5th, 2008, 9:31 am

I read comment after comment today of enraged Californians who think they should revoke tax-exempt status from churches because of this. Brace yourselves for the backlash!
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Postby scooter » November 5th, 2008, 9:37 am

Florida passed the marraige ammendment declaring marriage between a man and a women.

http://www.baynews9.com/FloridaResults.html?date=11.04.2008&name=Amendment2-DefineMarriage
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Postby forestwalker » November 5th, 2008, 9:49 am

DeWayneTN wrote:I read comment after comment today of enraged Californians who think they should revoke tax-exempt status from churches because of this. Brace yourselves for the backlash!

The prop was the backlash. We ain't the aggressors on this issue. No doubt they'll regroup, but their arrogance really backfired on them and has bought us some time.

Here's the mayor of San Francisco reacting to the state supreme court's decision that prompted the initiative:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC5K_0uRNCQ
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Postby paul » November 5th, 2008, 10:03 am

the same prop. also passed in Arizona also. The irony is that the large turn out of black voters in favor of Obama were also strong supportes of the ban on Gay marriage.. Maybe a silver lining afteral for us here in California
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Postby dbserv » November 5th, 2008, 11:00 am

I'm proud of our county. Even though the Prop passed with a close margin, we were ove 70% in favor of it. Although, the bad news is that we are down from the 83% who supported the original Prop several years ago that started the whole court case.


Maybe the Central Valley should secede and form a new state of "Sanity". :wink:


Even the Sacramento County Clerks office is refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays, as of about 11 a.m.

I didn't expect that to happen until the election was certified in "39 days" according to our "moonbeam" Attorney General Jerry Brown.
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irony of ironies

Postby pastorables » November 6th, 2008, 3:13 am

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