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tension between Palin and McCain

Postby one love » November 5th, 2008, 3:46 pm

They are reporting on FOX Oreily claiming that there was tension and also saying her knowledge was seriously lacking on basic economics, geography etc.. this could all hurt her political career.

Also that Sarah started to crack under pressure and would throw tantrums after reading the negative press. Getting mad at staff and throwing things...


They are throwing her under the bus folks. McCain seams to be distancing himself from her. Also that one staffer was fired for defending her. WOW

I am summarizing as best that I can so feel free to correct me if you heard the interview.

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Postby crispfin » November 5th, 2008, 5:09 pm

I didn't see the interview, but it would be extremely disingenuous for the McCain campaign to blame their loss solely on her. I seem to remember something about strong economic fundamentals, a fake suspended campaign, and a new attack every week instead of a consistent message.

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Postby Tim Elston » November 5th, 2008, 5:24 pm

crispfinagin wrote:I didn't see the interview, but it would be extremely disingenuous for the McCain campaign to blame their loss solely on her. I seem to remember something about strong economic fundamentals, a fake suspended campaign, and a new attack every week instead of a consistent message.


The reason McCain lost is because of a $10 trillion national debt, doubled from an already obscene $5 trillion under Republican leadership, because of the policy of torture proffered and defended by the Republican Party, because of the Republican Executive's presumption of the state's absolute power over human life in Guantanamo Bay, and because of a $10 billion/month war that was strategically rather than defensively motivated. McCain did not lose because of Barack Obama or Sarah Palin or the media. He lost because the Republican Party, at every level, abdicated its honorable, conservative heritage. McCain deserved better than that.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 5th, 2008, 5:26 pm

Tim Elston wrote:The reason McCain lost is because of a $10 trillion national debt, doubled from an already obscene $5 trillion under Republican leadership, because of the policy of torture proffered and defended by the Republican Party, because of the Party's the state's absolute power over human life in Guantanamo Bay, and because of a $10 billion/month war that was strategically rather than defensively motivated. McCain did not lose because of Barack Obama or Sarah Palin or the media. He lost because the Republican Party, at every level, abdicated its honorable, conservative heritage. McCain deserved better than that.


Every statement but the one in bold is 100% garbage.

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Postby Tim Elston » November 5th, 2008, 5:29 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:Every statement but the one in bold is 100% garbage.


And that's why you voted for the man who lost. You voted for the garbage that other Republicans had the decency to reject.
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Postby MacUser » November 5th, 2008, 7:02 pm

Sara is the reason McCain even came even remotely close. They should have turned her loose sooner instead of trying to tweak her positions to mimic McCains.

My wife whom was totally non involved in Obama, Hillary, or McCain.. came extremely interested and supportive the instant Sara Palin appeared on the scene. She is a woman of integrity and other women of similar nature can instantly spot it.

Out of anyone running.. ONLY Sara was the person I could actually trust to do what she says she would do ( and didn't have close connections to radicals) We owe her a deep debt of gratitude.

Sara Palin 2012! Let's state a ground up campaign!


Btw.. Tim.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but were you not a huge McCain supporter?
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Postby Billy n NC » November 5th, 2008, 7:59 pm

Greta was talking about this tonight.

But as of now it is just garbage from anonomous statements.
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Postby one love » November 6th, 2008, 1:39 am

MacUser wrote:Sara is the reason McCain even came even remotely close. They should have turned her loose sooner instead of trying to tweak her positions to mimic McCains.

My wife whom was totally non involved in Obama, Hillary, or McCain.. came extremely interested and supportive the instant Sara Palin appeared on the scene. She is a woman of integrity and other women of similar nature can instantly spot it.

Out of anyone running.. ONLY Sara was the person I could actually trust to do what she says she would do ( and didn't have close connections to radicals) We owe her a deep debt of gratitude.

Sara Palin 2012! Let's state a ground up campaign!


Btw.. Tim.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but were you not a huge McCain supporter?


EXACTLY matter of fact we here on J2 to be honest were not happy with McCain until Sarah came along...for the most part.
Sarah 2012...I am not sure. I love her and that is why I got excited about the campaign, I was not a fan Of McCain prior to that. I think it was a genuis move... A hail mary if you will. His numbers instantly jumped. However I think dolfan was correct it just may not be enough. The truth is the rel conservative base was not excited about McCain, I believe if Bush ran again we could get the same turn out :lol:

Tim I respect what you are saying but if you think torture will change under Obama I think you are underestimating the authority of the intelligence community that do things on field and then report the results. When he actually sees intelligence reports and finds out what Bush has went through the last 8 years I doubt that will be something he would change or COULD CHANGE....some things are done without being discussed, I believe we would be really gullible to think that he would/could change that....It never started with Bush it was just used by the left as a slander against him.
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Postby one love » November 6th, 2008, 2:17 am

Also we lost because we failed to act in the last 5 years. First of all Bush had the highest approval rating almost in history, as did the republican party in 2001-2002.

The Democrats seemed to be a defeated and depressed party that could not get anything done. They came up with a plan and executed it beautifully. We saw them start putting John Kerry and others on TV and the Hate bush talk started. They slammed him on the war (that most of them voted for)
Over and over they pounded away.
Kerry then runs for president and we should have won by a landslide based on the previous two years but we didnt. We did win with good numbers but we failed to realize that their plan was working.
People were buying into the lies and garbage that was spewed out day after day.

I was always amazed by them that came on TV slamming Bush over and over for something they voted for as well. We did nothing....the party allowed Bush to be looked at as a criminal and it worked.

They then won the senate and house and we still did not learn our lesson or act. The party allowed this to happen folks. They convinced Bush was so bad that they have attached him to every Governor/Senate/congressional race there was. Everyone saying it will be more bush.

People sadly bought into this garbage and the good things our president has done seem to be forgotten and he is stained. They let it happen, it is the parties fault!!!!!!!!!

We will need to regroup and gain back the "Reagan party" back and show the ideas of that we hold so dear.

They can all say what they want but they allowed this to happen, they were so SCARED to defend their own president and leader of their party it led to them (senate, congress, Governors) to lose as well. They should have had a backbone and defended the positions that they and the democrats voted for.

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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 6th, 2008, 3:44 am

Tim Elston wrote:You voted for the garbage that other Republicans had the decency to reject.


That is an absolute lie.

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Postby DeWayneTN » November 6th, 2008, 3:47 am

Ann Coulter's take - Blame McCain:

Republicans lost this presidential election, and I don't blame the messenger; I blame the message. How could Republicans go after B. Hussein Obama (as he is now known) on planning to bankrupt the coal companies when McCain supports the exact same cap and trade policies and earnestly believes in global warming?

How could we go after Obama for his illegal alien aunt and for supporting driver's licenses for illegal aliens when McCain fanatically pushed amnesty along with his good friend Teddy Kennedy?

How could we go after Obama for Jeremiah Wright when McCain denounced any Republicans who did so?

How could we go after Obama for planning to hike taxes on the "rich," when McCain was the only Republican to vote against both of Bush's tax cuts on the grounds that they were tax cuts for the rich?

And why should Republican activists slave away working for McCain when he has personally, viciously attacked: John O'Neill and the Swift Boat Veterans, National Right to Life director Doug Johnson, evangelical pastors Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and John Hagee, various conservative talk radio hosts, the Tennessee Republican Party and on and on and on?
read the rest at www.anncoulter.com


Oh yeah, I enjoyed this quote, too:

For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.
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Postby MacUser » November 6th, 2008, 4:10 am

DeWayneTN wrote:Ann Coulter's take - Blame McCain:


200% Right DeWayne. John McCain said it was HIS fault during his concession speech and I yelled out..."ABSOLUTELY".

DeWayneTN wrote: How could Republicans go after B. Hussein Obama (as he is now known) on planning to bankrupt the coal companies when McCain supports the exact same cap and trade policies and earnestly believes in global warming?


Absolutely SPOT on.

The Green garbage is a manufactured religion (again I'm for responsible recycling - who isn't?). And apparently it was a RIPE issue to take to the voters because they voted most of the GREEN issues down.

Not So Green: Voters Nix Most Environmental State Ballot Measures
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapit ... -measures/
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Postby soulsearcher » November 6th, 2008, 4:12 am

DeWayneTN wrote:
Oh yeah, I enjoyed this quote, too:

For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.


:lol: :lol: I spit my coffee laughing at that one, DeWayne :lol:

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Postby DeWayneTN » November 6th, 2008, 5:05 am

Yeah, it's a good one. I'm going to adopt it as a siggy for a few days.
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Postby Mike Vande » November 6th, 2008, 5:49 am

soulsearcher wrote:
DeWayneTN wrote:
Oh yeah, I enjoyed this quote, too:

For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.


Call me a spoilsport if you want to, but if Ann is a Christian, she, we and anybody else who claims to be born-again owes it Jesus to give him better treatment than President Bush got. We owe it to ourselves, too, unless you figure "no better than an axe-grinding democrat" is the Biblical standard for Christian behavior.

And one other thing; he is not "their president". He is The American President, and we all better start remembering it. God says there is no power over you that is not ordained by Him. We all need to pray for that man, pray that God guides his mind and heart, and above all that God protects his health. If Obama goes down, we get Biden... #-o
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