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Non election post - Helping pastor on Sunday

Postby fezzik » November 6th, 2008, 6:01 am

How would you respond on Sunday morning if your pastor called you up to answer the following:

What are the resources (people and otherwise) you need if God asked you to really turn your community upside down for the Kingdom?

Just looking for a quick summary or outline as I am sure the pastor doesn't want you to preach for him. What would you say?
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Postby RamboPreacher » November 6th, 2008, 6:04 am

a new personality?
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Postby fezzik » November 6th, 2008, 9:17 am

RamboPreacher wrote:a new personality?


:?: :?: :?:
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Postby RamboPreacher » November 6th, 2008, 10:01 am

i am a boring geek. I would need a new personality to (for the numbers) effectively turn my community upside down for the Kingdom.
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Re: Non election post - Helping pastor on Sunday

Postby paul » November 6th, 2008, 10:21 am

fezzik wrote:How would you respond on Sunday morning if your pastor called you up to answer the following:

What are the resources (people and otherwise) you need if God asked you to really turn your community upside down for the Kingdom?

Just looking for a quick summary or outline as I am sure the pastor doesn't want you to preach for him. What would you say?


1.A passion for Christ and compassion/burden for the lost .
2.A church body that see's itself as part of the larger body of Christ. Not mystical but in real down to earth hands on relationship with other groups desiring to see a move of God in their City/community.
3.A church who is not afraid of the various ethnic/orinetation/educational level ( up or down)or relationship problems that are a part of our current society.
4. Right motivation: Why are you desiring to turn around your community ? is it to build your churc or to save people from eternal life apart from Christ, and to better their lives for having come to Christ ?

IMHO, if these are not the core values then no matter the material resourses that you have, you will not be effective. Just one more program that did not work.

In Several areas around the country churches are working to become a real community church. google city hurches. Also a good book is " That none should perish" Ed Savolso.. Older book but they had great revival.

http://www.hubcitychurch.com/hub_city_church/home.html
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Postby fezzik » November 6th, 2008, 10:27 am

RamboPreacher wrote:i am a boring geek. I would need a new personality to (for the numbers) effectively turn my community upside down for the Kingdom.


My response to that would be: One of the elements of this would be to have an effective, well rounded team. You being a geek tells me you could provide integral skills to a team of talented individuals who work together to accomplish the goals. You might not be the face of the mission, but you are part of the guts that make it work.
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Re: Non election post - Helping pastor on Sunday

Postby fezzik » November 6th, 2008, 10:29 am

paul wrote:4. Right motivation: Why are you desiring to turn around your community ? is it to build your church or to save people from eternal life apart from Christ, and to better their lives for having come to Christ ?


I enjoyed reading this response, especially #4. That is a great comment.
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Postby Mike Vande » November 6th, 2008, 10:54 am

1. The annointing of the Holy Spirit

2. Faith no smaller than a mustard seed that God had indeed told me He wanted me to turn my world upside down.
Why is it that bad decisions seem to make to most interesting testimonies?

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Postby RamboPreacher » November 6th, 2008, 11:23 am

fezzik wrote:
RamboPreacher wrote:i am a boring geek. I would need a new personality to (for the numbers) effectively turn my community upside down for the Kingdom.


My response to that would be: One of the elements of this would be to have an effective, well rounded team. You being a geek tells me you could provide integral skills to a team of talented individuals who work together to accomplish the goals. You might not be the face of the mission, but you are part of the guts that make it work.
understood. I was trying to get some conversations going here so the thread wouldn't get lost. :)
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