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Postby Poimen » November 6th, 2008, 1:28 pm

PastorDaniel wrote:Poimen,

You bring up an interesting topic...I've never heard the idea of a "sub-movement" could you please clarify a little more...

I know about "oneness" churches...I was United Pentecostal for 8 years...

Are you saying that there was oneness believers that maintained their membership in the TCOG?

And...was there a TCOG congregation that was oneness?

Just curious?

I still fellowship with several Apostolics (oneness believers)....but I'm a COGOP pastor...Since I left the UPC and ended up back in the COGOP, I find that their are very few "oneness" believers that accept me as a Christian...


Well, by sub-movement I mean a movement (whether institutionalized or not) that takes place within the context of the COG movement or any of it's institutions. For instance the "concerned" was a movement within COGOP that led to a new branch on the COG tree. Snake Handling was a movement within the COG that led to a loose fellowship or sectarian movement.

In the same way there was a movement within TCOG to embrace a Oneness view of the God-head. Several members from various churches held that position, and many retained membership. However, two (which were also ministers) were eventually disfellowshipped. One of the two did not have his license revoked (an oversight for sure), and these ministers established and received members into a TCOG that espoused an Apostolic Oneness perspective with regard to the nature of God. Eventually one of the ministers was restored and the other went indepedent. The Apostolic TCOG went defunct. But it was a viable movement that claimed the COG mantle and/or heritage, with an established congregation at one time.
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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 6th, 2008, 1:32 pm

Poimen wrote:In the same way there was a movement within TCOG to embrace a Oneness view of the God-head. Several members from various churches held that position, and many retained membership. However, two (which were also ministers) were eventually disfellowshipped. One of the two did not have his license revoked (an oversight for sure), and these ministers established and received members into a TCOG that espoused an Apostolic Oneness perspective with regard to the nature of God. Eventually one of the ministers was restored and the other went indepedent. The Apostolic TCOG went defunct. But it was a viable movement that claimed the COG mantle and/or heritage, with an established congregation at one time.


This is astounding information: That TCOG became home to bonafide heresy.

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Postby Poimen » November 6th, 2008, 1:41 pm

Gerald Creasy wrote:
This is astounding information: That TCOG became home to bonafide heresy.


I don't know that I would say "home." Rather the leaven of Oneness belief was at work in TCOG. It was within an isolated sphere (more or less) and pretty well died out with the restoration of the one minister mentioned above.
It was never officially endorsed or embraced.
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Postby PastorDaniel » November 6th, 2008, 7:17 pm

Thanks for the info Poimen...just thought it was interesting...

I try to be friends with those that are apostolic and my wife has a lot of family still in the upc....but I don't think any of them consider us saved...

But, who cares....God is judging...not them!

I pray that the Lord will show them the error of their ways!
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Postby paul » November 7th, 2008, 5:07 am

Why not do a research Poimen of all the ministries that have a cog/cogop background. Many of them have gone past (effectiveness) than some of those listed on the tree.
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Postby BROTHER BILL » November 7th, 2008, 5:46 am

Does anyone know anything about Church of God Union Assembly?

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Re: church of god groups

Postby crispfin » November 7th, 2008, 6:02 am

BROTHER BILL wrote:Does anyone know anything about Church of God Union Assembly?

Brother Bill :? :?

I've never heard of them, but I found some info hyah and a list of churches hyah for a The Church of God of the Union Assembly. Is this them?

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Postby Gerald Creasy » November 7th, 2008, 6:33 am

crispfinagin wrote:
BROTHER BILL wrote:Does anyone know anything about Church of God Union Assembly?

Brother Bill :? :?

I've never heard of them, but I found some info hyah and a list of churches hyah for a The Church of God of the Union Assembly. Is this them?



I used to pass the Union Assmebly HQ every week on my way to work from Cleveland to Dalton, GA for work. It's a small small General HQ about the size of your average Dollar General store.

The last time I checked They DID NOT trace their heritage to the Tomlinson story at all.


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