Tim Elston wrote:irthnvesl wrote:Out of the books and into the bushes!
I'll leave that one alone.
Dude, if you're married, I'd say go for it!
Tim, I am, and I will sir.
Mid Life crisis? Fact of fiction?
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irthnvesl wrote:Tim Elston wrote:irthnvesl wrote:Out of the books and into the bushes!
I'll leave that one alone.
Dude, if you're married, I'd say go for it!
Tim, I am, and I will sir.
She likes hiking, too?
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irthnvesl wrote:Tim, you lost me on that one brother.
Bushes, hiking? If your wife's into the outdoors, go for it!
irthnvesl wrote:My responses were probably the result of a depraved sense of humor.
Huh?
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irthnvesl said
I agree with your assesment. so often times especially in ministry one gets to a certain point in age when he looks back, and for many they feel they are no where near where they thought they would be. Many feeol that they have spent their youth and if their expectations have not been realized by now it never will be.
For many ministers in my age bracket and especially raised in pentecostal organizations, we were taught that our entire life was to revolve around "the church" "ministry" it was our idenity. Apart from it their was no real existance. so when one realized he had not gotten to where he thought he should be...he had failed, he no longer had meaning... Then he began to turn to seek an idenity.
Some young thing, looking for a Father image, some lonely one that was seeking comfort began to give him meaning...the rest is history for so many good men.
When at 38 and I was leaving cogop, when my entire idenity was being shaken to the core, when I was seeking to know who I was and what if anything God had for me to do in this world. I can say as Dr. Ron alluded to. I also had a wife who reminded me daily who I was. I was a loving father, a wonderful husband ( her words) A man of God with a great ministry. She helped me find my idenity and kept me from pit falls that I saw many of my friends fall into.
Thank God for her
I do believe in a 'mid-life crisis'. I think people look back over their lives and evaluate their accomplishments. Maybe we come up short from what we had hoped to accomplish. I think I have. We look for the meaning of our life...have we made a difference? I think it is a valid thing that happens to folks. It is to me anyhow. I don't think it necessarily has to constitute a crisis though. Maybe it is a little disappointing not to have had more of an impact.
I agree with your assesment. so often times especially in ministry one gets to a certain point in age when he looks back, and for many they feel they are no where near where they thought they would be. Many feeol that they have spent their youth and if their expectations have not been realized by now it never will be.
For many ministers in my age bracket and especially raised in pentecostal organizations, we were taught that our entire life was to revolve around "the church" "ministry" it was our idenity. Apart from it their was no real existance. so when one realized he had not gotten to where he thought he should be...he had failed, he no longer had meaning... Then he began to turn to seek an idenity.
Some young thing, looking for a Father image, some lonely one that was seeking comfort began to give him meaning...the rest is history for so many good men.
When at 38 and I was leaving cogop, when my entire idenity was being shaken to the core, when I was seeking to know who I was and what if anything God had for me to do in this world. I can say as Dr. Ron alluded to. I also had a wife who reminded me daily who I was. I was a loving father, a wonderful husband ( her words) A man of God with a great ministry. She helped me find my idenity and kept me from pit falls that I saw many of my friends fall into.
Thank God for her
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This video is proof of mid-life crisis.
My sincerest apologies for anyone who takes offense. It was just too timely a discovery from an email I received and I couldn't resist. WARNING: HIGHLY SUGGESTIVE. HIGHLY.
If I shouldn'a posted it, someone tell me and I will never, ever do anything like this again. Or, if it doesn't cross the line, please know I will never, ever post anything like this again. Thanks.
My sincerest apologies for anyone who takes offense. It was just too timely a discovery from an email I received and I couldn't resist. WARNING: HIGHLY SUGGESTIVE. HIGHLY.
If I shouldn'a posted it, someone tell me and I will never, ever do anything like this again. Or, if it doesn't cross the line, please know I will never, ever post anything like this again. Thanks.
Human government bears the same relation to hell as the church bears to heaven. (David Lipscomb, On Civil Government, 72).
DR Ron.
Not sure if I have issues or not (so that means I most likely?) I did not have a great example of a loving couple, I didn't have a great example of being a Christian. So when it came to my relationships I took them one at a time. My first desire was to find out how to be a Christian and then I worried about other people. The problem is I did not always treat people the best. All that being said I was very lucky I had some very good family that made sure I had people that I could look up to, go to for help when I needed. I had some uncles that made sure I was in Church, One Uncle made sure I was in camp. I have not missed a year going to or working in camp since I was 6 (38 years). I had another that made sure I loved something, he got me into music, Photography, video he gave me direction. Yes my parents were not there but God made sure I had family
Tim, the ones I was talking with said that about the girls. Let me say i would give it up in a heart beat for just the right girl. I was told a few weeks ago that it doesn't take much to get a date. The guy just has to have a job and be some what nice. If I wasn't looking for the right girl, it would be easy to find the wrong girl.
It just blows my mind that people that have So much can give it all up in a heart beat. Yes there are things I would give up but wife and kids are not something that would even be considered.
Maybe it is a grass is greener. I see alot of green grass when I see my friends with their kids. I see alot of leaves in my yard and no one to rake them but ME....
Not sure if I have issues or not (so that means I most likely?) I did not have a great example of a loving couple, I didn't have a great example of being a Christian. So when it came to my relationships I took them one at a time. My first desire was to find out how to be a Christian and then I worried about other people. The problem is I did not always treat people the best. All that being said I was very lucky I had some very good family that made sure I had people that I could look up to, go to for help when I needed. I had some uncles that made sure I was in Church, One Uncle made sure I was in camp. I have not missed a year going to or working in camp since I was 6 (38 years). I had another that made sure I loved something, he got me into music, Photography, video he gave me direction. Yes my parents were not there but God made sure I had family
Tim, the ones I was talking with said that about the girls. Let me say i would give it up in a heart beat for just the right girl. I was told a few weeks ago that it doesn't take much to get a date. The guy just has to have a job and be some what nice. If I wasn't looking for the right girl, it would be easy to find the wrong girl.
It just blows my mind that people that have So much can give it all up in a heart beat. Yes there are things I would give up but wife and kids are not something that would even be considered.
Maybe it is a grass is greener. I see alot of green grass when I see my friends with their kids. I see alot of leaves in my yard and no one to rake them but ME....
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